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I'm a bit confused here. I've been comparing the Dr. Martens to CaBoots and they are pretty similar... they're both jodhpur style boots. The Dr. Martens do work for an RoTJ trooper. The primary difference is that the soles on the Dr. Martens are a bit thicker. Both boots have a small amount of decorative stitching. And lastly, the CaBoots have more of a gloss to them than the Dr. Martens though they both are white.

 

The Dr. Martens weren't easy to obtain at all. A quick read through this thread reveals the hunting I had to do to find mine. And they were more expensive than CaBoots.

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You can strip the gloss from the caboots and paint the soles white. I think the original ROTJ boots were just sprayed white with no masking on the soles. I don't see any reason why the underside of the soles need to be white, just the edges that you can see.

 

Trooper boots are more like jodhpur boots, so just because Dr.Martens are classed as chelsea boot style doesn't justify them for use as trooper boots. Not all chelsea boots are suitable to use as trooper boots IMO.

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Trooper boots are more like jodhpur boots, so just because Dr.Martens are classed as chelsea boot style doesn't justify them for use as trooper boots. Not all chelsea boots are suitable to use as trooper boots IMO.

 

I'm not arguing with you on this. I'm just trying to understand. To my eyes the Dr. Martens look perfectly acceptable. The style is correct, the color is correct, and the soles are already white so it saves the hassle of painting.

 

 

And of course I'll be peeved if they aren't accepted since I already bought a pair. :)

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I'm not arguing with you on this. I'm just trying to understand. To my eyes the Dr. Martens look perfectly acceptable. The style is correct, the color is correct, and the soles are already white so it saves the hassle of painting.

 

I believe the beef is the sole cut, Caboots and other forms have a flat sole with little tred. These are a little beefier of a tred pattern and have the arch in them.

 

But in the Dr Marten's defense, in the picture you posted of the hanger bay scene, it looks like there may be an arch to the boots, its very hard to tell but they don't quite look as flat footed as caboots.

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Here is a quick comparative view of the boots...

 

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You can see the Dr. Martens up top, a couple of screen grabs in the middle, and the CaBoots at the bottom.

 

The primary difference I see is the forward cut of the heel. The Dr. Martens have a forward heel angle of about 60 degrees as opposed to the 90 degrees of the CaBoots and even the screen captures. But the shape of the Dr. Martens is closer and there is an arch in the soles.

 

I've never said that the Dr. Martens are an exact match for the RoTJ white-soled boots. But I do think that they are close enough to warrant acceptance. Both the Dr. Martens and the CaBoots have a bit of decorative stitching on them so we can't honestly claim that one is better than the other in that regard.

 

And there are two other points to take into consideration... first, the Dr. Martens would likely be better suited for trooping than the CaBoots and secondly, as soldiers in the Empire I suspect that stormtroopers would've worn something more like the Dr. Martens if they had been a real life military force. For the purposes of costuming I grant that these points may be considered utterly pointless. I offer them simply as food for thought.

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If only I had my screen grabs.....

 

There is a frame in the battle on Endor that I have grabbed where the TK boot goes by the camera, he's being flipped or somesuch, and does indeed have a traditional boot bottom. It was yellow, not white, as I recall.

 

When they were wrestling around in the forest, I'm sure a lot of the TK's wore actual work-like boots. Background and such.

 

The TK's on the Death Star though seem to have the traditional flat-bottomed boot.

 

And as I said in another thread, I couldn't find a single frame that definitively showed actual Jodhpur-style in ROTJ. I'd like to see some on the set photos if I could find them or if someone has them. The only "real TK" shots I've seen are with Elvis style zip-down-the-side boots. Tour suits etc.

 

I just can't frame-grab a single Jod-style in ROTJ.

 

When is LFL coming out with these in Blue-Ray? That'll make it much, much easier.

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