bluebantha[TK] Posted May 3 Author Report Posted May 3 It has begun! I started with the biceps. as they seemed relatively straight forward Before: After: So, I trimmed as the directions said, and they seem fine, however, I just got a bit concerned about return edges. I know for ANH TK's there's a ton of discussion and reference regarding what is correct. What seems to be the consensus for FO TK's? I also know that the gaskets add a bit of heft. I know the chest and back have some, but is it ok that I trimmed the biceps to the edge? I can attach more photos. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 42 minutes ago, bluebantha said: So, I trimmed as the directions said, and they seem fine, however, I just got a bit concerned about return edges. I know for ANH TK's there's a ton of discussion and reference regarding what is correct. What seems to be the consensus for FO TK's? I also know that the gaskets add a bit of heft. I know the chest and back have some, but is it ok that I trimmed the biceps to the edge? I can attach more photos. I don't have much return edge on my arms, although I do have some on the front of the forearms as they are quite thick on the front https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/gallery/category/32-specific-parts/ No return edges Chest/back/yoke definitely a return edge as you can see in this image No return edge thighs and shins 1 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 4 Author Report Posted May 4 40 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: I don't have much return edge on my arms, although I do have some on the front of the forearms as they are quite thick on the front https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/gallery/category/32-specific-parts/ No return edges Chest/back/yoke definitely a return edge as you can see in this image No return edge thighs and shins This was super helpful. Thank you! I plan on trimming more pieces tonight 1 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 4 Author Report Posted May 4 Entirely unrelated, but, for the black ring around the neck of the helmet, is paint used or is an actual rubber gasket used? If it's a rubber gasket, where do people typically get them? I have left over trim from my ANH helmet, although, I dont know if this is the same. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 14 minutes ago, bluebantha said: Entirely unrelated, but, for the black ring around the neck of the helmet, is paint used or is an actual rubber gasket used? If it's a rubber gasket, where do people typically get them? I have left over trim from my ANH helmet, although, I dont know if this is the same. They don't normally have rubber, I'd say this was put on afterwards Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 Internal view of a TFA Helmet. No edge trim, but this one had a webbing set up and a chin strap to keep it on and in-place Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 4 Author Report Posted May 4 15 hours ago, Sly11 said: Internal view of a TFA Helmet. No edge trim, but this one had a webbing set up and a chin strap to keep it on and in-place Thanks for clarifying! Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 4 Author Report Posted May 4 Productive night yesterday! I got a ton of the pieces cut out, and the greeblies painted! Here's the paint: Onto the cutting! Cod before: Cod after: Shins before: Shins after: Thighs before: Thighs after: Butt before: Butt after: Shoulders before: Shoulders after: Knees before: Knees after: I'll be working on the torso armor tonight. Id like to do the forearms soon, however, they feel a bit daunting. 3 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 5 Author Report Posted May 5 New update! All of the pieces are trimmed with the exception of the forearms, which I'll tackle tomorrow. In addition, I glued together the abdomen, and hope to begin the filling tomorrow. I did a mock fitting, and am finding that the tips of the chest dont sit flat, so I'll need a way to flatten them. Here's some pics; Abdomen before: Abdomen after: Chest before: Chest after: Yolk before: Yolk after: Back before: Back after: Spine before: Spine after: Spats before: Spats after: Hands before: Hands after: Here is the abdomen glued: 2 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 5 Author Report Posted May 5 Completely unrelated, but I am an actor, and in theater, I have access to a lot of black gaff tape. So, I took some today, and am trying to make sense of exactly where it goes on the armor. I understand it goes in the black areas where stickers are often used, but is it taped on from the back, or placed on top like a sticker? Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 9 Author Report Posted May 9 Hi my friends! It's been a while since I posted an update. Ive been super busy with finals and performances, however, I managed to get a pretty good amount done. Firstly, to hold me over until I purchase a metal one, I printed out a functional holster for the thigh armor, here it is: I made some ABS slurry using the scraps I had, and Klean Strip acetone. I began putting it on the shoulders and abdomen seams: I cracked the Yolk when I was trimming the excess, so I started to patch it. I have begun sanding these pieces, however, I learned a valuable lesson. I figured it would be good to slap it on, quite thick, as it would build up nicely. This was however not the best way of doing things, I should have done multiple thin layers. I found that having it on thick would result in it heating up and becoming gummy as I would sand. Not a huge deal, but it would require me to stop, and then start again. I also noticed there being quite a few bubbles in the slurry when I did it this way. So, if you're doing this, learn from my mistakes. Next, and this was for some reason a big worry of mine, I began on cutting out the forearms. Before: And after: Once this was done, I cut out the recesses in the chest and biceps: I then added the gaff tape to the back: Feeling pretty good about my progress thus far. I also began glueing the limbs together, so I will post that when I post updates on the seams. If I could have some guidance on the shoulder/chest rigging, I would greatly appreciate it. I have found that even after the 2-3 times I have slid the unit over my head, I am already developing cracks. I have since reinforced those areas with ABS and some slurry though. Thanks for looking! 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 You were too fast, ABS paste is better being applied with thinner coats, reason! the thicker the applied paste the more air bubbles can form inside during the curing process. Bit late now though, see how you go you can always add a thinner coat later. Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 10 Author Report Posted May 10 3 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said: You were too fast, ABS paste is better being applied with thinner coats, reason! the thicker the applied paste the more air bubbles can form inside during the curing process. Bit late now though, see how you go you can always add a thinner coat later. Yeah, I figured. Ill do thinner coats going forward 1 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 Here's some photos of the pieces being glued up with E-6000! Forearms: Calves: Biceps: Thighs: I then began to sand and paint up the holster: Then I added some shims to the back plate in order to bridge the gap between the chest and back: Then slurry: It looks like I put this on thick, however, I did it just about as thin as possible. There are two thin layers here. Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 So, once I got everything glued, I did a bit of a preliminary suit up. Im super aware that there are issues here. The shoulders are not attached to the chest, the thighs are not attached to the abdomen, and the abdomen has yet to be closed up. And, it is hard to see, but I do have my gaskets on. I tailored the leg gaskets that came with the kit to be more form fitting, as they were tight on the thigh, and very loose on the calf. Let me know if anyone sees anything jumping out at them as being egregious: Let me know what you think. Thanks for looking! Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 Quick little update! As we know, the included panel is too tall for the included fabric pouches in the Denuo Novo kit. I took some measurements, and it's about an inch too tall. So, I took it upon myself to model this in fusion 360, so I could 3D print this instead of buying new pouches! Here it is: If anyone finds themselves needing the file down the line, Im more than happy to send it over to you! I can also put it in the 3D file depository. Hope this helps! 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 Very nice, if you wish you could also post in the 3D depository I know it's still early on but make sure when it comes to your submission you have the forearms on the right arms, note the small black detail in pill boxes should be on the inside of the forearms Getting close now. Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 12 Author Report Posted May 12 4 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said: Very nice, if you wish you could also post in the 3D depository I know it's still early on but make sure when it comes to your submission you have the forearms on the right arms, note the small black detail in pill boxes should be on the inside of the forearms Getting close now. Good eye! thanks! I imagined that the clips went on the outside, but Ill be sure to switch them. Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 25 Author Report Posted May 25 Hey! For anyone still following along, I have some updates! I just finished up the semester, and visited a friend for his birthday, so I haven't had the opportunity to post. Lately ive been concerned with smoothing out the side seams. Still have a ton of work to do, but here's where we currently stand: The right side has some bubbles that need filling, and for some reason, on the left side, the seam seems to be a different color, which is a bit frustrating. While I was away, my Endor Finders gloves arrived! They look and feel great: Will eventually upgrade the hand guards, but these work for the time being. Along the lines of soft goods, I wanted to try my hand at making the shiny shorts. I bought a sewing machine just about a year ago, and haven't had too many opportunities to use it, so I figured id give it a go. I purchased this Marvel branded shiny black fabric at Joanns, and it was about $20 a yard: On YouTube, I found some free PDFs for biker shorts, so I downloaded them and printed them out: Transfered: Traced: Pieces cut out: Shorts assembled: They're a tight fit, but it makes sense. I will eventually attach photos of myself suited up, so we'll see how it looks with the rest of the ensemble. Still trying to do as much DIY as possible, and saving a bit of money with the hopes of upgrading down the line, I decided to also 3D model the shoulder brackets. Here are some photos of them printed out: These were printed in ABS. I designed them to be 1/16 of an inch thick, and the hole on either side was designed to fit a standard male end snap. I will add these to the 3D file depository in case anyone wants to use them. Here they are with some filler primer: Im happy with the way things are going currently, Im working at an OK pace. Im most worried about the abdomen seams, so I will likely have some questions going forward. In addition to everything in this post, I have also painted the inside of the helmet, and done some more sanding on the shoulders and yoke. I'll have photos of that work posted tomorrow. Thanks to anyone following along! 1 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 25 Author Report Posted May 25 Just a quick update, and a bit of a cry for help lol. Last night, I two very thin layers of ABS slurry to the seams, to once again go in and wet sand. I did a preliminary round of sanding at 120 grit, and here are the results: I seem to be running into a problem every time I do this. I have the patience to sit and sand, that isn't the issue, however, Once I get it to a point where its smooth, I get these dark lines down the center of the pieces. I have to imagine they're the seam, and it's probably the glue showing through, but these aren't cracks. Am I starting with too low of a grit? It's also not an issue of the slurry not matching the armor itself, as I have reinforced and sanded edges of the armor with no issue. Any guidance or help here would be SUPER appreciated! Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 For me 120 is a little coarse and I'd start with something around 180 or 240 using wet and dry with water. ABS paste can dry a different color compared to the ABS and you are sanding through the gloss finish of it. I had a similar issue with my TFU armor, I ended up using some waterbased acrylic paints and mixing to match the color of ABS and dabbing on in a few of the darker areas. 1 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 26 Author Report Posted May 26 2 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said: For me 120 is a little coarse and I'd start with something around 180 or 240 using wet and dry with water. ABS paste can dry a different color compared to the ABS and you are sanding through the gloss finish of it. I had a similar issue with my TFU armor, I ended up using some waterbased acrylic paints and mixing to match the color of ABS and dabbing on in a few of the darker areas. Awesome, thanks for the tip! 1 Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted May 26 Author Report Posted May 26 1 hour ago, dblcross said: Looks great so far! Thank you! Quote
bluebantha[TK] Posted August 28 Author Report Posted August 28 Hello to everyone who may be following along, and time for a VERY long overdue update! Im so happy to be back in the swing of things with this kit. I took a break because I was getting quite frustrated with the ABS paste/slurry. I find that when im working, and I get frustrated, I tend to make hasty decisions, so its best to take a step away from the expensive kit of plastic... While I wanted to avoid doing this, I decided to use bondo to smooth over the seams as opposed to ABS paste. I work quite frequently with Bondo on my 3D printed parts, so I bit the bullet. The only difference is that I can re print a part if need be, with this kit, im not able to do that. So, here we go... I started by really slapping this stuff on. Id rather have the material there, than have to go back and keep adding: I let this stuff dry overnight, then I took the weekend to sand. and sand. and sand. and sand. and sand. Needless to say, this took forever, but I was left with a beautifully smooth finish as a result. I went from 80 grit, all the way up to 2500 grit: Following this, I used the Behr Gloss White spray paint that seems to be the standard when working on Sequel trilogy TK's. I was a bit nervous, as I know plastic can vary in color from each batch, but am INCREDIBLY pleased to say that they match up perfectly! Here is a look: I am super pleased with this. As you can see, there are some pinholes on the side of the chest, but those have been sanded out and repainted, I just don't have photos of that quite yet. Im so happy with the results. The time spent sanding made all the difference. Having this portion of the build sorted out has really relieved a lot of stress I had about the project. It has reinvigorated me, and Im excited to push forward. The next course of action would seem to be the assembly of the abdomen and thermal detonator cover piece, which is stumpting me a bit. Any advice on this front would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks for following along! Quote
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