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[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

9 hours ago, azoroes said:

One question to the belt as a non native speaker, does "is closed at the rear" mean the closure is on the back side or does it mean the belt is closed at the front and nothing is at the back? 

I really have no memory of that, and honestly I think it's wrong as well.  Looks like it's closed (as in the fastener or buckle) at the front. I am going to claim it as a typo 🫠

 

I think the best route is to simply remove that line and let people use reference so it looks correct and not worry about forcing it any specific way.

 

Regarding the skirt, I've not had a chance to go back and watch yet due to work and other issues taking my time.

 

Perhaps the simplest solution is to amend the wording to remove the word "fabric".  Then if some one has made one in either fabric or leather so far they are going to be able to get cleared.  Looking at the images there just is not enough detail right now to make a 100% decision. The motion might help but even then we don't 100% know and might not ever unless this ends up on a stand at Celebration or similar.

 

We can always add it later as a level 2/3 requirement once we know for sure.

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

I've updated both the belt and the skirt sections. If anyone has any comments let me know.

[Yiyo[501st]]

6 minutes ago, themaninthesuitcase said:

I've updated both the belt and the skirt sections. If anyone has any comments let me know.

I just wanted to thank you guys for pushing this out the door! So many of us have or will have very similar costumes ready, so the changing of words to allow for basic approval, really helps.

 

Thanks! Hopefully we will get a model soon!

[azoroes[TK]]

vor 18 Stunden schrieb themaninthesuitcase:

I've updated both the belt and the skirt sections. If anyone has any comments let me know.

Looking good, but in my eyes we should clarify that the rear border is not the same as on the front and side panels, pretty good to see in the pictures from my last post 

 

vor 18 Stunden schrieb Yiyo:

I just wanted to thank you guys for pushing this out the door! So many of us have or will have very similar costumes ready, so the changing of words to allow for basic approval, really helps.

 

Thanks! Hopefully we will get a model soon!

I'm on vacation this week and will continue on the remaining parts to be done, hope the first pictures from last weekend are coming soon so you can see all of it a bit better as in general everything blended together very good in my eyes. 

[Yiyo[501st]]

8 minutes ago, azoroes said:

Looking good, but in my eyes we should clarify that the rear border is not the same as on the front and side panels, pretty good to see in the pictures from my last post 

 

I'm on vacation this week and will continue on the remaining parts to be done, hope the first pictures from last weekend are coming soon so you can see all of it a bit better as in general everything blended together very good in my eyes. 

Many of us have used K&J Sewing from UKG for the Kama so we appreciate the “undefined “ part of it as the patterns are fantastic and the choice of materials, is still difficult to decide.

 

 What does the rear border mean? 

Edited October 5 by Yiyo

[azoroes[TK]]

 

That's the border I'm talking about, the side border parts are a brighter red, back one is exactly the same. 

[Yiyo[501st]]

So the bias / binding versus the leather?

 

 

[Yiyo[501st]]

[azoroes[TK]]

I think it works with fabric as you did, but if it's done with leather it seems to be a bit different

Tough thing I have to be sure, I think in the end the combination has to fit the look. 

[Yiyo[501st]]

5 hours ago, azoroes said:

I think it works with fabric as you did, but if it's done with leather it seems to be a bit different

Tough thing I have to be sure, I think in the end the combination has to fit the look. 

Panels are leather, quilted sides are fabric

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

On 10/5/2024 at 4:11 PM, azoroes said:

Looking good, but in my eyes we should clarify that the rear border is not the same as on the front and side panels, pretty good to see in the pictures from my last post 

I understand what you are saying but there is an amount of implied "and matches the screen reference". There is a balance between making the text too complex and hard to follow vs too simple and not detailed enough.  Not sure where this falls exactly, but it does say that all panels need to have a red borer. It's just defining that is a bit tricky at this point.

[DANE]

So, the Kama is now red? Not dark burgundy ?? The borders on the quilted panels do look lighter, but the leather panels look have same color borders. My Kama is basically made. Need to add the leather, make a few adjustments. But a color change is huge. 

It definitely looks to be dark burgundy, not red to me. 

Edited November 6 by DANE

[Yiyo[501st]]

On 10/7/2024 at 9:41 PM, themaninthesuitcase said:

I understand what you are saying but there is an amount of implied "and matches the screen reference". There is a balance between making the text too complex and hard to follow vs too simple and not detailed enough.  Not sure where this falls exactly, but it does say that all panels need to have a red borer. It's just defining that is a bit tricky at this point.

Hey Dane,

 

did you see my photo above? There are quite a few of us with the same Kama, I believe it is dark burgundy for the leather and red for the rest as per the pic.

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

16 hours ago, DANE said:

So, the Kama is now red? Not dark burgundy ?? The borders on the quilted panels do look lighter, but the leather panels look have same color borders. My Kama is basically made. Need to add the leather, make a few adjustments. But a color change is huge. 

It definitely looks to be dark burgundy, not red to me. 

So long as it looks correct, it's not a colour change. Colour naming is pretty vague, "red" covers a huge spectrum from RED to almost brown. If you came with a bright red one it would be rejected as the CRL is not just the words.

[DANE]

Ok. Thanks 

[DANE]

Hi, here is my Kama. Reddish borders. The leather just needs to be added.  Looks quite different than Yiyo’s. Thoughts? 

Edited November 8 by DANE

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

The tones and general shape all look appropriate to me but lighting and fit are a huge part of this. It can be hard to judge any part in isolation, it will be easier to judge in a full or partial kit up.

 

It is worth noting that on the screen used on the 2 main front panels are clearly leather along with the waist wrap section. The leather grain can clearly be seen here:

 

 

The front middle, sides and back are the sections we're not sure on and the focus of the discussion.

 

For now the CRL, bar the waist, not much mentions materials used. It wouldn't be unreasonable I don't think that level 3, and maybe 2, required leather (or leather like) materials for the 2 front panels.

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

Hi all future Captain Enochs.

 

We are still looking for a CRL model. A member was working with us but unfortunately they have been hit with Darth Life and have much more important things to look after.

 

We have seen a number of great builds here, if you are one of them and have a finished build please do get into contact.

 

Please note as this will be the CRL model we will be paying close attention to not only the general build but also key things like 3D print lines and fit to the member in question.

 

It would be amazing to get this CRL completed before the end of the term.

[azoroes[TK]]

Hey, still on that progress, sadly still waiting on getting my shoes fixes by a local shoe maker as I had some problems with them. 

In other terms I already fixed everything including new handles for the blaster, so it shouldn't take too long anymore as I was already pretty pleased with most of my built. 

Updates will follow on my build thread as soon as I got more progress. Badly I haven't gotten any pictures of the photo shoots I did back in speyer so all I got are some semi-grade smartphone pictures. 

[Yiyo[501st]]

On 11/6/2024 at 9:09 PM, DANE said:

Hi, here is my Kama. Reddish borders. The leather just needs to be added.  Looks quite different than Yiyo’s. Thoughts? 

Front panels and top "belt" are clearly leather, color is spot on, seems very similar to mine.

[Nairy[Staff]]

Didn't see anything regarding the ab plate mentioning R1, but isn't it just an R1 ab?

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

17 minutes ago, Nairy said:

Didn't see anything regarding the ab plate mentioning R1, but isn't it just an R1 ab?

It is. The draft CRL should match the R1 CRL iirc. Well bar the gold and cracking. 

[Sly11[Admin]]

Yep R1.

[azoroes[TK]]

Alright, here are some shots from my Captain!

 

I fixed all the previously mentioned points and in my eyes its pretty done! I'd like to hear your opinion if we can move on to get this as a CRL model and the CRL finally done!

 

 

 

[gmrhodes13[Staff]]

With most (if not all) TK costumes the shins should close outside over inside so they can not be seen from the outside, appears yours are overlapping inside over outside.

 

 

 

Watch the placement of parts, notice your belt is not central on the rear

 

 

For CRL images (especially parts) it makes it a lot easier to edit if you take your photos with a contrasting background, examples here