Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 My name is Brian, and I live in the U.S. state of Indiana. Some of you may know me from my FEM7 build thread in the non-approved costumes section of the forum. I really appreciate the help that has been provided, and as I mentioned in my thread, I certainly have been 'bitten by the bug,' so I am planning an approvable build! As such, I figure I would finally introduce myself here, so I can meet many of the others on this forum! I am aiming to buy a TK armor kit based on a style from the era of the original trilogy. I have mentioned the possibility of creating a shock trooper (and my understanding is that the armor can be made from ANH or ROTJ armor, but with different nuances), but I am still exploring other possibilities! I'll be exploring various threads across the forum, and welcome recommendations for threads to read! 1 Quote
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 Hello there, Brian! Awesome to hear about another victim of the bug. Below is a resource thread that you may find useful.https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/49412-all-in-one-tk-anh-stunt-index-of-resources-by-maskedvengeance/Also here’s and ANH to Shock conversion thread, by Jorge.https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/52359-converting-anh-tk-to-shocktrooper/ 1 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Posted August 12, 2023 Both threads are fantastic! Thank you so much! Quote
Nairy[Staff] Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 Hello and welcome Brian! You have an exciting journey ahead of you! The shock trooper sure looks awesome so I really understand the pull towards that one! Are you 50/50 on which one you want or do you have anything that weighs heavier on the other? Anything we could help you out with? 1 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) One question I had was answered by @MaskedVengeance linking that shock trooper thread! I was wondering if there have been any recent shock trooper approvals using ANH armor, and it appears so! I'm looking for Level 1 certification, so I don't really have a preference of ANH vs ROTJ, just an approvable kit I can buy to start my next build! But I do have another set of questions: What is the suitability of ESB armor for a shock trooper build? My understanding is that, exempting the helmet and holster placement, the key differences between ANH and ESB armor are the different shaped handplates (it seems the ESB has the snowtrooper-style handplates called for on the shock trooper). Would ESB armor be suitable for a shock trooper in this case? Bringing the helmet back into question, are the differences between the ANH and ESB helmets more than cosmetic (are they the same helmet, structurally)? Could an ESB helmet be modified for a shock trooper? Edited August 12, 2023 by Tilheyra Quote
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 You’re spot on. The actual armor on ANH and ESB kits are the same, other than the differences you already mentioned. Therefor an ESB could be used for a Shock conversion. If I might pose a suggestion, you could start with an ANH Stunt, then convert to ESB (or even and ANH Hero), then finally to a Shock. And before the Shock you could even do a HWT!And in regards to the helmet, ESB differences are purely cosmetic. Same bones. Basically just change the frown paint. For higher levels of ESB approval you’ll also need decals on the helmet rather than hand-painting.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 The issue with a Shock Trooper is the game is based of a ROTJ stormtrooper although the helmet is ANH, there are some differences between ANH/ESB and a Shock Trooper, it's mainly for EIB or Centurion but to build it correctly some changes should be noted from the start of the build. You may also want to check with your GML (garrison membership liaison) as some can be stricter on base approval. Here's just a few items ANH/ESB is butt joined with covers strips, Shock Trooper is OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Overlap construction must be used. Butt joints and cover strips are not allowed. Butt joined ANH/ESB/HWT Overlapped - Shock Trooper/ROTJ Shoulder Armor No elastic around the bicep is present. Shoulder Straps OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Only 4 ridges of the shoulder straps overlap the chest plate. The front of the shoulder straps do not have a wide flat area only small ridges. Armor A white flexible U shaped gasket or molded lip shall be present around all edges. 1 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Posted August 12, 2023 Good to know I was understanding the similarities! I hadn't thought about converting over time. This opens up a lot of possibilities! Perhaps that is the direction to go... 3 hours ago, MaskedVengeance said: You’re spot on. The actual armor on ANH and ESB kits are the same, other than the differences you already mentioned. Therefor an ESB could be used for a Shock conversion. If I might pose a suggestion, you could start with an ANH Stunt, then convert to ESB (or even and ANH Hero), then finally to a Shock. And before the Shock you could even do a HWT! And in regards to the helmet, ESB differences are purely cosmetic. Same bones. Basically just change the frown paint. For higher levels of ESB approval you’ll also need decals on the helmet rather than hand-painting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Posted August 12, 2023 This is super helpful! Although I am aiming for Level 1 certification, I did not think about the differences at this level of detail. Thank you! I think it would be best for me to go ahead and contact the Bloodfin Garrison and ask their thoughts, especially given the discretion the GML has. A good amount of my excitement over this today is that I have seen approvable ANH/ESB armor in my price range. The ROTJ armor seems harder to find. When it comes down to it, having an approved stormtrooper with the 501st is a little more important to me than that stormtrooper specifically being a shock trooper. Also, now that I know some folks convert their costumes over time opens up more possibilities! I thought my FEM7 would be the only stormtrooper costume I would make, but here I am taking about another build, so the future is full of new opportunities! 1 hour ago, gmrhodes13 said: The issue with a Shock Trooper is the game is based of a ROTJ stormtrooper although the helmet is ANH, there are some differences between ANH/ESB and a Shock Trooper, it's mainly for EIB or Centurion but to build it correctly some changes should be noted from the start of the build. You may also want to check with your GML (garrison membership liaison) as some can be stricter on base approval. Here's just a few items ANH/ESB is butt joined with covers strips, Shock Trooper is OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Overlap construction must be used. Butt joints and cover strips are not allowed. Butt joined ANH/ESB/HWT Overlapped - Shock Trooper/ROTJ Shoulder Armor No elastic around the bicep is present. Shoulder Straps OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Only 4 ridges of the shoulder straps overlap the chest plate. The front of the shoulder straps do not have a wide flat area only small ridges. Armor A white flexible U shaped gasket or molded lip shall be present around all edges. 2 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Posted August 12, 2023 I went ahead and contacted the Bloodfin Garrison with my questions. I'll let you all know what I find out! 2 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 13, 2023 Author Report Posted August 13, 2023 The Bloodfin GML responded to my question on their forum. He said the same of what has been said here. ROTJ is preferred, but to be super diligent in getting the conversion right if I go with ANH/ESB armor. Decisions... Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 13, 2023 Author Report Posted August 13, 2023 Alright, I've mulled over different kits and read the 501st databank guidance for both the shock trooper and ESB trooper. I'm going to go ahead and pull the trigger on the ESB kit I've been eyeing. I'd been thinking about this for a number of days before making this thread, so now that the pieces are coming together, I think it is time to commit! 4 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 Looking forward to seeing the BBB and following your build, good luck 1 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 14, 2023 Author Report Posted August 14, 2023 BBB day might come sooner than usual. I bought a completely untrimmed WTF kit that a long-time member of Walt's Facebook group offered for sale on that group (with Walt's permission). The package is already on its way! 2 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 Looking forward to seeing some BBB photos soon 1 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 OUT FOR DELIVERY!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not going to get much done at work today, am I? 2 Quote
Tilheyra[IPM] Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 Looks like it is time to start the build thread! Quote
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 YEAH BUDDY!!! And no, no work to be done this afternoon... other than TK work. 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Tilheyra said: Looks like it is time to start the build thread! Yay, happy dance, then the panic when you realise you have to start cutting Remember the golden rules, measure twice and cut once, don't be afraid to ask questions, there is no silly questions only silly mistakes from not asking Good luck with the build 1 Quote
Starkiller[TK] Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Welcome, Brian! Looking forward to following the build thread! Quote
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