TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Posted May 15, 2020 My friend sent me this picture of the WTF R1 helmet that he bought. I’m pretty sure filling in the tube stripes and tear indents would be perfect to make this close to the game model. What do you guys think? Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Posted May 15, 2020 Aw heck. I just realized the ears between the FO and the R1 helmets are completely different. This helmet has ANH style ears. So I'm likely just going to have to find an ANH helmet and get the eyes symmetrical. Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted May 15, 2020 Report Posted May 15, 2020 This is coming along nicely. For a CRL, getting the text in order should be pretty easy and fast as most of it we just copy/paste from an existing one and tweak. What takes forever are getting the images together and photoshopped, so usually on a new CRL we want those to be done first. Hope that makes sense and it would be cool to see this brought to life. 1 Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Posted May 15, 2020 Thanks Daetrin. WTF told me I'd want an ROTJ helmet for this build. So here's a comparison shot. The eyes still seem off to me. It'd be perfect if the left eye didn't narrow out at the nose like it does. And the frown would need to be gray. Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted May 16, 2020 Report Posted May 16, 2020 I cant see screw in the ears from your images which heavily suggests RotJ helmet, the ears are glued on not screwed on as in ANH and ESB. Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Posted May 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Sly11 said: I cant see screw in the ears from your images which heavily suggests RotJ helmet, the ears are glued on not screwed on as in ANH and ESB. So it's a symmetrical ROTJ helmet? Alright, no clue how I'll pull that off. I had an idea of getting a R1 helmet, cutting off the ears, and replacing them with the correct ones after filling in the tube stripes. I'll need to look into this further... On another note, a certain package containing a certain big gun was delivered to me today. I'll have pictures of that up soon for your amusement. 1 Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Well guys, it arrived and I was so excited that I had to put it together. Behold: Now I'll have ALL the firepower to wipe out the rebel scum. Edited May 16, 2020 by TheLoneRanger 4 Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted May 16, 2020 Report Posted May 16, 2020 8 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: Well guys, it arrived and I was so excited that I had to put it together. Behold: Now I'll have ALL the firepower to wipe out the rebel scum. Holy crap - that is awesome!! Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 16, 2020 Report Posted May 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Sly11 said: I cant see screw in the ears from your images which heavily suggests RotJ helmet, the ears are glued on not screwed on as in ANH and ESB. Still looks ANH to me, apart from the screws there is also the grey teeth and trapezoid black lines which are ANH ROTJ 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 16, 2020 Report Posted May 16, 2020 17 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: Well guys, it arrived and I was so excited that I had to put it together. Behold: Now I'll have ALL the firepower to wipe out the rebel scum. Awesome, we had a member who 3D printed one and had it fully functional, had to make a stand for it as it was just too darn front heavy Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Thanks guys! I'm loving the Z6 as well, lol. On another note, after much debating and checking references, I've ordered an AM ANH helmet from Dave. I think it's the best helmet to modify to serve my needs. I still think it needs bubble lenses per what I pointed out in that one image. Edited May 17, 2020 by TheLoneRanger Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Posted May 17, 2020 Alright, I took some more reference screenshots for research. Here's the holster. Looks like it goes on ESB style. No loops. Overall picture of the regular game's TK The blaster appears to be the ESB style blaster. No chargers or counters. Confirmed: No screws in the ears, they're glued on. Finally, I'd like to stress this is NOT the proper way to aim your blaster. Quote
Skablaze[TK] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 Hey. Here's some 4K pictures of the helmet. Sadly, the textures are not that great but still better than the in-game shots. I have the whole Stormtrooper armor from the game in my software, so do not hesitate to ask me more shots of armor parts or blasters. You can find these in my Google Drive. I made a comparison of a Jedi : Fallen Order and Star Wars : Battlefront (ROTJ style) stormtrooper helmet. Sneek peak of a Jedi : Fallen Order heavy assault stormtrooper (forgot to remove the holster, my bad) and Z-6 rotary blaster. 2 Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Skablaze said: Hey. Here's some 4K pictures of the helmet. Sadly, the textures are not that great but still better than the in-game shots. I have the whole Stormtrooper armor from the game in my software, so do not hesitate to ask me more shots of armor parts or blasters. You can find these in my Google Drive. I made a comparison of a Jedi : Fallen Order and Star Wars : Battlefront (ROTJ style) stormtrooper helmet. Sneek peak of a Jedi : Fallen Order heavy assault stormtrooper (forgot to remove the holster, my bad) and Z-6 rotary blaster. Holy CRAP this helps out a ton! Thanks!! Time to thoroughly investigate these! I was definitely right about the bubble lenses! It looks like the paint on the frown isn't limited to just the teeth, it ever so slightly goes onto the 'lips' as well. Edited May 17, 2020 by TheLoneRanger Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Posted May 17, 2020 By the way, I've decided I'll do each trooper variant, the regular TK, the Heavy Assault, the Commander, and the Rocket launcher trooper. They're all the same base TK, with each variant just having different accessories. Shouldn't be too hard to do them all up and then just switch between them. As such, I'll be working on doing the regular TK first and getting the CRL for that made, then I'll follow through with the variants. I'm now working on how the strapping system should be. I guarantee the in-game model just has the armor pieces slapped onto the body. So I'll need to figure out how to emulate that. Quote
Colin1138[TK] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 The blaster appears to be the ESB style blaster. No chargers or counters. Thats a ROTJ blaster. Though strangely upscaled!The lid is a bit of a hybrid. ROTJ lenses and screwless ears, but pretty much ANH everything else.These guys are a real curiosity! Shsme I didn't pay too much attention whilst slicing and dicing.Good luck with the build!Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 You can see screws in these images Quote
Neb Sgird[TK] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Skablaze said: Hey. Here's some 4K pictures of the helmet. Sadly, the textures are not that great but still better than the in-game shots. I have the whole Stormtrooper armor from the game in my software, so do not hesitate to ask me more shots of armor parts or blasters..... ....(forgot to remove the holster, my bad) and Z-6 rotary blaster. Great resource! Did you work on modeling for the game or something? Inexcusable on that holster Your source confirms that there ARE three ear screws in the helmet. Here is the image from @Skablaze's treasure trove. Any pics of the full armor you could provide would be much appreciated by all of us! 40 minutes ago, TheLoneRanger said: By the way, I've decided I'll do each trooper variant, the regular TK, the Heavy Assault, the Commander, and the Rocket launcher trooper. They're all the same base TK, with each variant just having different accessories. Shouldn't be too hard to do them all up and then just switch between them. As such, I'll be working on doing the regular TK first and getting the CRL for that made, then I'll follow through with the variants. I'm now working on how the strapping system should be. I guarantee the in-game model just has the armor pieces slapped onto the body. So I'll need to figure out how to emulate that. I feel oddly responsible for this. So...sorry for the additional cost I've caused you, and your welcome for the awesome variations you'll get to build! I think it's worth noting that the goal is to bring the video game model into the real world, instead of emulating it exactly. Meaning internal strapping is entirely up to you and can be done just as any other TK could be. Just my two cents. Edited May 17, 2020 by Neb Sgird Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Posted May 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Neb Sgird said: Great resource! Did you work on modeling for the game or something? Inexcusable on that holster Your source confirms that there ARE three ear screws in the helmet. Here is the image from @Skablaze's treasure trove. Any pics of the full armor you could provide would be much appreciated by all of us! I feel oddly responsible for this. So...sorry for the additional cost I've caused you, and your welcome for the awesome variations you'll get to build! I think it's worth noting that the goal is to bring the video game model into the real world, instead of emulating it exactly. Meaning internal strapping is entirely up to you and can be done just as any other TK could be. Just my two cents. No worries on the cost, it's all part of the experience. I'm going to take a look at the return edges and see if there are any. Quote
Skablaze[TK] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: Holy CRAP this helps out a ton! Thanks!! Time to thoroughly investigate these! You're welcome. Glad I can help. 28 minutes ago, Neb Sgird said: Great resource! Did you work on modeling for the game or something? Inexcusable on that holster Any pics of the full armor you could provide would be much appreciated by all of us! No, I didn't work on the game and have zero knowledge in modeling I use a software called "Source FilmMaker" which allow me to use, pose, animate and render models. Some people extracts models from games files and port these into a game engine called "Source" (Team Fortress 2 , Counter Strike, Half-life, etc..). As long as these guys keeps extracting and publishing files from new Star Wars games, I will be able to post high-res pictures of new troopers from these games. By the way, I have the Jedi : Fallen Order : - Scouts, Purge Troopers, Flametroopers and Clonetroopers armors. I'll post pictures of the whole armor as requested. 1 Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 I would think it would be one CRL with options vs. multiple CRLs. 2 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 17, 2020 Report Posted May 17, 2020 I agree, FOTK's are similar this way, different versions but 1 CRL and 1 approval. Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 18, 2020 Author Report Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Skablaze said: You're welcome. Glad I can help. No, I didn't work on the game and have zero knowledge in modeling I use a software called "Source FilmMaker" which allow me to use, pose, animate and render models. Some people extracts models from games files and port these into a game engine called "Source" (Team Fortress 2 , Counter Strike, Half-life, etc..). As long as these guys keeps extracting and publishing files from new Star Wars games, I will be able to post high-res pictures of new troopers from these games. By the way, I have the Jedi : Fallen Order : - Scouts, Purge Troopers, Flametroopers and Clonetroopers armors. I'll post pictures of the whole armor as requested. That's in SFM? I didn't realize that, I have SFM. I'll find the models right away and take a look at them. I have a feeling I'll find some goodies to look over. Quote
Skablaze[TK] Posted May 18, 2020 Report Posted May 18, 2020 9 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: That's in SFM? I didn't realize that, I have SFM. I'll find the models right away and take a look at them. I have a feeling I'll find some goodies to look over. Yes it is I managed to get directly into game files yesterday, which means that I can probably get any props, weapons or armor from the game. 1 Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted May 18, 2020 Report Posted May 18, 2020 Yep 1 CRL with accessory options. it going to be a full gamut that's for sure. 1 Quote
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