TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 Hey all, I originally posted this on Spec Ops as I figured it'd fall over there based on the trooper description and weaponry, but I got referred to here because of the white armor. I'm pretty sure here is the right area to post this for research... Anyways, while playing Fallen Order, the Heavy Assault Stormtrooper caught my eye. Taken from the description: "The Heavy Assault Troopers are specialized infantry serving the Galactic Empire on the front lines of war. They are primarily trained to defend combat zones as support squads to Stormtroopers patrols. They are highly proficient with the Z-6 Rotary Blaster Cannon, which fires off steady rapid, long-range bursts capable of inflicting heavy damage, and shielded by a low emitter energy ray. " If anybody else has seen someone building one of these and can link me a build thread to look at it, please share it with me. But, I figured I'd get your opinions. I'm interested in building one as I already have all the soft goods for a TK and have a commissioned Z-6 being finished any day now. The armor looks to be ROTJ style, while the helmet MIGHT(?) be ESB style. Thanks for looking, hope to hear your opinions on this. 2 Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 Hi Steve, hopefully you can get some good reference images from various angles so we can see all the detail. Any close up you can gain as well will be advantageous. 2 Quote
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 Definitely ROTJ armor except for the shoulder bells, non-inverted large ab-button panel, presence of a pauldron and drop box placement. Helmet frown looks to be gray like ANH and not black. Looking forward to seeing more dovetailed images of this! Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Picture spam incoming! Sorry for the delay, I was stuck at a part of the game where there were no troopers, haha. So as Joseph pointed out: ROTJ armor (minus shoulder bells), inverted AB plate (all the buttons of which seem to be shades of gray), presence of a black pauldron (I haven't encountered any other variants, just black), drop box placement is different, and the helmet appears to be similar to an ANH Stunt helmet. Also, light weathering. That's definitely not the cleanest of troopers! Edited May 11, 2020 by TheLoneRanger Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 Many similarities with other game versions, much like the TKC. Hand plates are clamshell. Belt also appears it may be nylon. Knee ammo strip higher on thigh. No belt buttons and no centre rivet. Also the belt is a little longer and end rivets are closer to the end. Most game versions are ROTJ armor with ANH helmets, it can be quite easy to modify ANH armor to suit the ROTJ style with the addition of the U trim. Fallen Order Commander Rocket Launcher Stormtrooper Quote
Chemi[Staff] Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 I remember that part of the Fallen Order ... You still have a lot of fun ahead Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 12, 2020 Author Report Posted May 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Chemi said: I remember that part of the Fallen Order ... You still have a lot of fun ahead I know, I've been playing and having fun! I'm looking around for armor makers now, seeing who I could find. I'll need to make some adjustments to any armor I get. Quote
Neb Sgird[TK] Posted May 12, 2020 Report Posted May 12, 2020 CRL-wise, would it be good to create a Fallen Order stormtrooper CRL with variants? Seems to be the same in-game model with different accessories. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 12, 2020 Author Report Posted May 12, 2020 That could work actually. I’m putting together a shopping list right now, debating if it’d be better to buy ROTJ armor and modify it or buy ANH armor and modify it. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 12, 2020 Report Posted May 12, 2020 Having variations in the CRL should work. Just with the ROTJ style armor there are a few differences, much rounder around the butt plate also the kidney and butt are one piece so to cut down on some work purchasing ROTJ would be the easiest option. 1 Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 12, 2020 Author Report Posted May 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: Having variations in the CRL should work. Just with the ROTJ style armor there are a few differences, much rounder around the butt plate also the kidney and butt are one piece so to cut down on some work purchasing ROTJ would be the easiest option. Alright, sounds good. Do we have any makers of ROTJ armor besides the guy in the UK? Nothing against him, I just bet shipping would be very high. There’s a guy in my garrison who used Rubies armor and modified it to be accurate but he said it Was a ton of work. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 12, 2020 Report Posted May 12, 2020 You will find some of the mods listed in this thread Another info thread here, unfortunately with older threads some images no longer work Another build here You can find armor makers thread here Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 12, 2020 Author Report Posted May 12, 2020 Thanks. I messaged WTF and he said he does the ROTJ armor, so I’m waiting to hear back from him some more about pricing. I think I’ll snag a helmet from AM, his helmet fit me just fine back when I had his kit. Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted May 12, 2020 Report Posted May 12, 2020 If the troopers are the same there would be a list of weapons that can be used to match the particular color Pauldrons. 1 Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Posted May 13, 2020 The eyes appear to be symmetrical. So what would the best course of action for a helmet be? Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Posted May 13, 2020 Actually upon thinking about it, I bet I could use a heat gun to gently mold the eye to be symmetrical with the other eye if I got an ANH helmet... Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 13, 2020 Report Posted May 13, 2020 Heat gun and ABS, needs A LOT of practice, ABS is a funny beast with heat, you can go from a nice firm piece to molten mess within a blink of an eye. Yes it could be achieved but use caution and a lot of practice first. Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Posted May 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: Heat gun and ABS, needs A LOT of practice, ABS is a funny beast with heat, you can go from a nice firm piece to molten mess within a blink of an eye. Yes it could be achieved but use caution and a lot of practice first. Yes, I had an unfortunate mishap last year with a royal guard helmet, haha. I’ve gotten in plenty of practice since then using ABS scraps. last question I have, what style are the shoulder bells? Once I know that, I can start compiling my shopping list. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 13, 2020 Report Posted May 13, 2020 Appear more ANH stlye, a lot fuller than ROTJ Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Posted May 13, 2020 Thanks! I’ll have a list up shortly of what I have and what I plan on buying and where I’ll be getting it from, so that we can all closely scrutinize it and make sure I’m making all the right decisions. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 13, 2020 Report Posted May 13, 2020 Info on new to the legion costumes https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CRLGuide Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Posted May 14, 2020 When I can get into the game again, I’ll take several up close shots of the helmet so I can figure it out. The whole thing seems to be symmetrical like the R1 helmets, but the tube stripes appear to be “decals”. I might end up having to modify a BS helmet. 1 Quote
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted May 14, 2020 Report Posted May 14, 2020 It may just be the image, but it looks as if all the buttons are more or less the same shade of gray except for the third button on the small panel, which appears to be black. Also, it's pretty obvious that the bases are on all of them are black. Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Posted May 14, 2020 More picture spam! Close-up shots of the helmet. As the last picture states, those eyes would best translate to bubble lenses. The frown is confirmed ANH style gray frown, the tube stripes and tears are decals (super common on video games, the texture artist just textured on the stripes and tears instead of actually modeling them onto the helmet), the ears have no black stripes on the bumps, and the eyes are indeed perfectly symmetrical. I'm betting half the helmet got modeled and then duplicated and reversed to make the full helmet. Another common technique. Quote
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Posted May 14, 2020 My shopping list so far. Still undecided on the helmet and pauldron. I'd rather order the helmet at the same time as the armor after doing some more research. Helmet: Undecided (still researching) Armor: WTF ROTJ armor with ANH shoulder bells and ESB handplates (waiting to order after more helmet research) Undersuit: scuba diving suit off some diving website I bought years ago - in hand Gloves: Black chemical gloves off Trooperbay - in hand Boots: TK Boots - in hand Balaclava: Military surplus - in hand Neckseal: Darman - in hand Pauldron: Undecided, probably Trooperbay Quote
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