TK-90913 Requesting ANH Stunt EIB Status (AP) [960]

[iEmpire916[TK]]

Armor Maker: AP

Helmet Maker: AP

Blaster Type: Praetorian Blasters

 

Height: 6'1"

Weight: 160lbs.

Boots Maker: Imperial Boots

Canvas Belt: AP

Hand Plates Type: justjoseph63

Neck Seal Type: Darman's Props

Holster Maker: AP

 

Armor:

 

Helmet:

 

Blaster:

 

Accessories:

[ukswrath[Staff]]

Great job William good luck on your application 

[gmrhodes13[Staff]]

Nice work and good luck with approval.

 

Just watch the position of you drop boxes

 

You may want to check the distance between the end caps and plate on your TD

[TKSpartan[Staff]]

Looking great William. Good luck with your approval !! 

[wook1138[TK]]

Looking good, trooper!  Good luck!

[shashachu[TK]]

Hi William!

 

I'll be doing your review. You've done a really nice job with your build. Troopers who are on either end of the height spectrum have more work to do, and you've done a nice job fitting the armor to you. I will need you to make one correction before we can proceed with your application. The L2 CRL states:

 

Sniper knee plate must be aligned with the ridges on the shin.

 

You've done a nice job with the left ridge, but your right ridge is a ways off:

 

 

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It will take some careful clamping and gluing and it definitely doesn't have to be perfect, but in looking at previous AP approvals, you'll see that you should be able to get the alignment much closer.

 

Reach out if you need any assistance or clarification. Thanks!

[iEmpire916[TK]]

Thank you for your reponse, Sha Sha! How would I generally bend the right side upwards? Would I need a heat gun or a boiling water bath work to bend it into the correct spot?

[shashachu[TK]]

3 hours ago, iEmpire916 said:

Thank you for your reponse, Sha Sha! How would I generally bend the right side upwards? Would I need a heat gun or a boiling water bath work to bend it into the correct spot?

If you're not used to using a heat gun, yes a hot water bath is a good idea. I personally used the heat gun a ton when I was doing my build, but if you're not used to it, you can do some real damage to your armor. A hot water bath is a lot more forgiving.

[iEmpire916[TK]]

11 minutes ago, shashachu said:

If you're not used to using a heat gun, yes a hot water bath is a good idea. I personally used the heat gun a ton when I was doing my build, but if you're not used to it, you can do some real damage to your armor. A hot water bath is a lot more forgiving.

Ok, I'll give that a try! I've never used a heat gun so I don't want to risk it. Haha Since the center back of the sniper knee plate is welded to the cover strip, should I just dip in the right side of the plate and bend it?

[iEmpire916[TK]]

Ok, so I boiled the knee plate and bent it as best as I could. It looks like it got a bit wonky in the front, but the knee plate seems to be aligned on both sides now?

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by iEmpire916

[TKSpartan[Staff]]

Great work, Almost there trooper !! 

[shashachu[TK]]

Hi William,

Thanks for your patience with your application, and thank you for the quick fix with the sniper knee!

 

CRL and EIB Application Requirements

All required photos are now in and, after review, we are pleased to welcome you to Expert Infantry rank. On behalf of Joseph and myself, many congratulations!  

 

Other-Armor Fit/Assembly

In this area we review observations made by your fellow troopers and the DO team. Some observations may lead to suggestions to improve the overall look of your armor. Note that we consider both text (CRL) and pictures (screen caps/reference images) when reviewing submissions

 

You've done a fantastic job with your build, so we have just a couple suggestions to improve your look.

 

First, since you are rather tall, gaps in the armor are inevitable, but we like to see troopers minimize them and even them out. You do have a somewhat significant gap between your back piece and kidney piece, so you might see what you can do to adjust the strapping to minimize it. Since you're now also a pro with the hot water bath, you could also see if you're able to straighten out the tabs at the top of the back piece to get it to sit lower. I did the reverse on my own build (bent the back tabs to get the back piece to sit higher) since I'm very short. You can also see if you can simply lengthen the white elastic strapping connecting the back and chest.

 

 

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Next, another spacing issue. From the front your thigh and calf pieces look pretty even, but from the rear you have a pretty significant gap at the knees with a smaller one between the butt plate and thighs. This may just be due to your particular proportions, but if you can drop your thighs just a touch without impeding your mobility, it would make things look a bit cleaner.

 

 

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Finally, a suggestion with your ammo pack location. Ideally we like to see the thigh ammo pack centered. On applications where it is extremely off kilter we do require them to center it, but since yours are fairly close, we're leaving it as a suggestion.

 

      

 

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Centurion Requirements

In this section we prepare you for Centurion. More photos may be requested in the future that allow us to make better decisions on possible adjustments. If there are any areas of concern they will be discussed here.

Because Centurion photos show much more detail than EIB, items to pertaining to Centurion might be seen there and not here. We try to point out all that we can from what is seen, but the final accuracy is the responsibility of the trooper.

 

Starting from the top, the L3 CRL states:

There should be a minimal gap between the shoulder armor and the chest/back plates.

 

The gap at the front looks great, but you have a larger gap in the rear. Things you can do to help minimize it is to shorten the strapping holding the bells on, and trimming off all of the lower return edge on your shoulder bells. It may even simply be a matter of how you're holding your arms when you're taking your photos.

 

 

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Next, the L3 CRL states:

Drop boxes are vertically aligned with the end of the ammo belt with minimal gap between belt and box.

 

Your drop boxes will need to be moved so they align with the ends of the plastic part of the belt, and it also appears the elastic could be shortened just a touch.

 

   

 

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Finally, it pains me because your ab buttons are just so perfect, but you'll need to strip back some of the paint. The L3 CRL states:

Ab button paint shall not extend beyond the bottom of the actual raised button.

 

While extremely clean, the paint on your ab buttons is a bit too big. If you take a look at reference photos, you'll see that they should err on the side of being a bit too small. This should be pretty easily fixable with a bit of mineral spirits or paint thinner.

 

 

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And that's it! We have full confidence in your ability to make these few small changes, so we hope to see your Centurion application soon. Congratulations again!

[gmrhodes13[Staff]]

Congratulations and welcome to the EI ranks trooper

[TKSpartan[Staff]]

Congratulations Trooper Well done !!  Welcome to EIB, don't stop your way to Centurion, almost there too. 

[giskard8[Staff]]

Congratulations trooper,

 

 Welcome to the ranks.

[ABS80]

I disagree on the belly buttons they are in proportion and look perfect!  making them smaller would look off, look at the spacing between each button almost same as  the original you posted,  your basing yourself on the tiny exposed bump, also no two were painted the same , your comparisation photo actually proves his button are correct size when you compare the spacing between each button ect...

 

Mark (AP)

[husky68[TK]]

Congratulations fellow AP wearer.


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[Chemi[Staff]]

Congratulations trooper!!!! 

 

Regards... 

[iEmpire916[TK]]

Thank you Sha Sha for reviewing my EIB application and everyone for the kind words! I am definitely going for Centurion and working on my back gap, thigh gap, shoulder gap, and drop boxes.  Being a bit taller makes things interesting. haha

 

For the ab buttons, I am a bit confused because I do see the requirement is "Ab button paint shall not extend beyond the bottom of the actual raised button", but none of the buttons extend beyond the raised button. There is a slight white raise around each button. Let me know if I'm not understanding something correctly! haha

 

[shashachu[TK]]

Hi William!

 

Sorry for the delay. @ABS80 (Mark) does have a point in that we're basing the L3 requirements on a small set of data, which in this case is mostly the photos that came out of the Shepperton Studios/LFL lawsuit, because those were some of the clearest images we had ever seen of a screen used ANH suit. The language in the CRL is a little ambiguous, but the idea is that the button paint should really stop short of the edges of the ABS button, as you can see in the following photos (all of the same suit):

 

    

 

I think it is certainly a possibility that this particular suit was actually an outlier, but as it is, it represents the clearest images we have access to. That said, the CRL is always in flux, and as we learn more about the armor (which is incredible given they're 40+ years old now) you'll see requirements come and go. I did go back and look at the last several EIB approvals for AP suits and we have consistently requested the button paint change, so if we're wrong, we're at least consistently wrong. In the end L2 and L3 approvals are always optional and should never be source of stress, just a nice way to try to get a consistently high quality look across all armor types in the 501st. 

 

Hope this helps,

Sha Sha