simorph Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) Ooops - been told I have to apply for Expert Infantry before I can apply for Centurion, so here's all the pics and info over here in this thread. Thanks! Name: Simon Phipps Forum name: simorph Legion ID: 30878 Garrison: UK Garrison EIB Application: https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/46398-simes-anh-tk-build/ E11 Build: https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/46398-simes-anh-tk-build/ Armor = RWA Helmet= RWA Blaster= Doopy-doos + Tino Finishing Kit Height = 5'10" Boots = Roamers Equestrian Boots dyed white Canvas belt = RWA Hand Plates = RS Props gloves with flexible hand guards Electronics= TRamp Neck Seal = RWA Holster = Scratchbuilt Full clearance image album here: https://imgur.com/a/q0bp6uR Additional details image album here that should cover all Centurion app questions: https://imgur.com/a/RWgk4mm FULL BODY Front – Arms at side Left – Arm raised Right – Arm raised Back – Arms at side Right Side Detail - Arm raised Left Side Detail - Arm Raised ARMOR DETAILS Abdomen Details Action Shot Ab/Kidney Attachment – Button Orientation Kidney Plate Notch Butt/Kidney – Fixed: Yes/No Yes - Butt and Kidney are separate Hand Plates Shoulder Bridge Back Shoulder Bridge Front Thigh Pack Attachment Knee Plate Drop Box Back Cod and Butt Plate Attachment (Note - exterior brass rivet is cosmetic - I didn't want to put strain on the armour, so glued a snap plate over it to take the actual strain.) Interior Strapping Back/Chest Connection (Additional snaps around outer corners of the butt/kidney are redundant - that was experimenting with best attachment points for best fitting of butt plate - I plan to remove those) Wrist side of forearms HELMET DETAILS Front Side – Left/Right Back Hovi Mic Tip Detail Lens Color (Backlit if required) S-Trim BLASTER DETAILS Blaster – Right Blaster - Left ACCESSORIES DETAILS Neck Seal Thermal Detonator – Back Holster Attachment Edited July 16, 2019 by simorph Added extra photos Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, simorph said: Forum name: SykoVoss Hi again Simon Just wondering, your actual forum name is different from the one you added here? Quote
simorph Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Posted July 15, 2019 Yep, my bad - amended in the original post. Username here is 'simorph' - I was using my Mercs id on the UKG site and completely got mixed up. Thanks! 1 Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, simorph said: EIB Application: https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/46398-simes-anh-tk-build/ This is also a link to your build thread and not a previous EIB. I will also need some additional photos - with that said, I´ll bee your D.O during this endavour # Right/left side detail - arms raised. # Inside ammo pack fixings. # Hovi mic detail - both of them. # Inside pic showing the cod and posterior fixings. Thanks 1 Quote
simorph Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Posted July 15, 2019 Sorry my bad - didn't realise that EIB meant what it was when I accidentally filed Centurion app, so subbed in build thread in that field. On the right/left detail with arms raised - what's the difference between that and zooming in on the full body pic? Just querying so I know what you might be looking for that's not in the full body pic? Thanks! Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, simorph said: Sorry my bad - didn't realise that EIB meant what it was when I accidentally filed Centurion app, so subbed in build thread in that field. No worries. 1 hour ago, simorph said: On the right/left detail with arms raised - what's the difference between that and zooming in on the full body pic? Just querying so I know what you might be looking for that's not in the full body pic? Thanks! It’s to ensure we have quality photos on how the suits fit and the allignment of the rivets and ab/kidney. Sometimes the photos provided are of low quality that zooming doesn’t help. It been this way for quite some time, it’s always a good Idea to look at other applications and see what photos are requested, there’s also an EIB photo checklist (which is going to be updated) were one can get a good Idea on what photos to upload 1 Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 Hi again, just a heads up, the TK ID and Legion ID are not the same, I took the liberty of editing that for you Quote
simorph Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Posted July 16, 2019 Okeedokee - uploaded a bunch of photos and added them to the original post. Fire away with any more questions. Just thinking - if you wanted a more visual set of checklists for the two PDFs for EIB and Centurion (I've taken all the headings for my post from those two docs), if you can point me to a definitive set of photos, I could rework both PDFs for you so that they have thumbnails of the example photos alongside the checklist... I'm an artist/designer/web/print designer - that's my job, so I could happily do you a second more visual version of those docs. I'd just need a set of images from you guys. If there are any specific things you might want to call out on those images, I could easily drop in callouts (e.g. 'make sure Han Snap is visible in this shot', 'make sure belt overlaps button plate', etc.) 1 Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, simorph said: Just thinking - if you wanted a more visual set of checklists for the two PDFs for EIB and Centurion (I've taken all the headings for my post from those two docs), if you can point me to a definitive set of photos, I could rework both PDFs for you so that they have thumbnails of the example photos alongside the checklist... First reaction, that would be awesome! Second - I’ll look into it, thanks for the offer Quote
simorph Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Posted July 16, 2019 Happy to - least I can do to repay you guys for all the help and support. If you can point me to a definitive set of images, I can happily sort it. 1 Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted July 19, 2019 Report Posted July 19, 2019 Hi again Simon and thank you for your EIB application. (For those looking at this review for their own future application please be aware that this review is made in appliance to the previous CRL, meaning that there are elements in this review that are suggestions that will be manadatory for those beeing reviewed according to the current CRL as per regulations stipulated for when the changes would take affect, you can read about it in this NL https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/47339-june-fisd-newsletter-2019/) In this review I will ensure that your armor follows the requirements set out in the CRL L2 Expert Infantry Badge and also point out what I can to prepare you for Centurion, should you choose to apply. I hope you do! Let´s get started shall we! CRL and EIB Application Requirements: All required submission photos have been posted and I am very pleased to announce your armor displays all the necessary elements to qualify for ANH Stunt Expert Infantry. On behalf of myself and the entire D.O.Team, Congratulations! Other-Armor Fit/Assembly: In this section we review observations made by your fellow troopers and ourselves. Some observations may lead to suggestions to improve the overall look of your armor. As we navigate through this review we are going to start from the top and work our way down. We start with the helmet and although there are examples of brows in different positions we feel that the intended look is what´s seen below - a clear gap with the brow trim neatly installed. You have a nice looking gap but the trim itself is a bit wavy so we suggest you poke it in place. Next up we have the ears and as seen below on most Stunt helmets the ears had more of an angle to them. Yours are pretty close but could still be moved just a touch, so if you feel up to it we feel it would add even more to that ANH-feeling, another thing to consider would be to trim the ears a bit thinner. Moving on, we have the tube stripes and it´s another of those small details to consider for an uber ANH-look and as seen below the last/most forward stripe usually has a lean forward. An easy fix by simply add an extra stripe with a little lean to it. The mic tips are nice and white on the inside but could use some wear on the rims as seen below and if your hovis are "unpainted" resin you can just scuff them up. Turning our attention to the shoulder bridges they seem a bit long and a quick and easy fix would be to snip them off a bit shorter as seen in the reference image below. Just something to consider. Looking at your arms we noticed there´s a good amount of return edge and we suggest to remove all of it on the inside part as indicated by the blue lines. Original armor had very minimal if any return edge and that would make it a bit more comfortable as well. Looking at the belt we suggest you give it a shave ones in a while to stay sharp on patrols. Your TD is looking good but if you want all out accuracy the clips were butted up to the control panel and the ends had little bends on them as seen in the reference images below. The posterior plate seem to have gone Rogue on you so here we advise you to thighten the strapping. It also appears that the thighs might be a culprit in pushing on the plate, lowering them or trimming is what we suggest if that´s the case. Last on our suggestion list is also a comfort thing by removing some more return edge on the lower cod. We will also just finish off by mentioning that we saw other areas that would benefit some light sanding to keep you more comfortable when wearing the suit. Overall you did a very fine build and we just want you to enjoy it as much as possible - hey! who are we kidding! It´s s Stromtrooper suit, it will be enjoyable even if there were barb wire for the edges...sorry, got a little carried away there - as you were Trooper Let´s move on to the next step! Centurion Requirements: In this section we prepare you for Centurion. More photos may be requested in the future that allow us to make better decisions on possible adjustment etc. If there are any areas of concern they will be discussed here. Because Centurion photos show much more detail than EIB, items pertaining to Centurion might be seen there and not here. We try to point out all we can from what is seen but the final accuracy is the responsibility of the trooper. Below you will find areas that will need to be adressed for a future succesfull Centurion Application. As per L3 there should be a minimal gap between the shoulder armor and the chest and back plate so we need you to close that gap some more and based on your build thread this seem to be a simple dressing issue and if not there´s still some lower return edge at the bells that can be trimmed. The sides should be together nice and thight and some tighter strapping should have this sorted. Last item on your road to Centurion would be to lift the belt and going by your build thread ones again you had the belt position down to point so this most certainly is a dressing matter. And that´s it - just some small tweeks to do so we expect that Centurion application momentarily During that breef transition time - head on out as a proud Expert Infantry man for the Empire 2 Quote
TKSpartan[Staff] Posted July 19, 2019 Report Posted July 19, 2019 Great Simon!!! , Welcome to EIB. Now, don't stop your way to Centurion. 2 Quote
giskard8[Staff] Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 Congratulations trooper, welcome to EIB. 1 Quote
CableGuy[TK] Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 Well done, Simes. Centurion is calling. :-) 1 Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 Congratulations Simon, all the way now, you almost got this, good luck.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
simorph Posted July 31, 2019 Author Report Posted July 31, 2019 Sooo...I went through the list and made the following mods.... Straightened out the brow ridge by trimming back the ABS edge behind the trim, and then applying a few spots of E6000 to stop it sliding back down Made the mods to the Thermal Det... The clips butted up to the plastic but the original bend on the clips wasn't quite round enough to hug the tube, so I removed the clips, carefully bent the tips and replaced. There's a teensy gap on one side and I'm leaving it there as I can't pry the white plate off. So more accurate, not 10000% perfect. Trimmed back the cod... Trimmed the final rectangle off the shoulder bridges, which takes nearly an inch off the bridges... Trimmed the canvas belt (again) but this time took some Resolene (the acrylic top coat I use on leather pieces) and soaked all the way around the edge of the belt. This means that none of those stray threads are going to come loose ever again (I did worry that at the rate I kept trimming it, I'd end up with nothing but a piece of string) Trimmed back the return edges on the arms...which should give me more room to move! Scuffed up the hovi tips... Tightened the strapping on the ab plate by adding an extra snap to the elastic on the right... ...and making much shorter straps on the left.... Now the natural position for the ab at rest is with the plates overlapping - so the gap should be as narrow as possible now. And then (thankfully, I kept the stencils!) I added an extra stripe - took the spacing of the bottom edge of the stripes, but tilted the stencil forwards... So hopefully more New Hope... And finally, I took out the return edge on the shoulders so that'll hopefully close up the gaps even more and give more movement... Still terrified at the prospect of tilting those ears back - the helmet's held together with pop rivets and prayer. But can't do anything to it for at least a couple of days while the new tube stripes cure... Quote
TKSpartan[Staff] Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, simorph said: Still terrified at the prospect of tilting those ears back - the helmet's held together with pop rivets and prayer. But can't do anything to it for at least a couple of days while the new tube stripes cure... First of all, let me tell you are amazing Simon. Great job Trooper. By the other hand, remember the Helmet issue is just a suggestion, and no mandatory for the next level (Centurion) . You can apply for the L3 and delay the helmet fixing untill you are totally secure. I had the same issue with my Anovos Helmet and due it has come pre assembled, It's really difficult just think about to remake it. I'm still waiting for the right moment to do it. You're just ready to do the next step. congratulations again . 1 Quote
CableGuy[TK] Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 Hi Simes, Amazing commitment, jumping straight in with those fixes!! Top job. Regarding the ear alignment, don’t push yourself too hard here. Depending on how you trimmed the face plate and back sections that are under the ears, this might not be possible. Ear alignment is really a task for early on in the helmet construction. (Just keep the ear references if you ever make another lid). However, I’d definitely consider using the spare set of ears that Ross provides to try thinning them out a bit. As you know, I also troop an RWA lid and recently trimmed the ears for a more accurate look. Here’s an example; Screen used - note how thin the “disc” is; For the tubestripes, personally I’d consider removing the ones you’ve added and slowly lean a couple forward. The style that’s been referenced in your EIB review sees the stripes steadily lean further forwards. https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/44755-tube-stripes-anh-stunt-dave-m/ With respect, your new front one leans forward a little abruptly, not quite in keeping with the others. I’d perhaps fit two in the gaps, each with a little more lean. (Or, Just remove the new ones and leave it as it was - the template you have is not the same as the Dave M template so you’ve used what you had very well). :-) Keep up the amazing work, Simes. :-) 1 Quote
simorph Posted August 1, 2019 Author Report Posted August 1, 2019 Thanks Dan! well, I gritted my teeth last night, unscrewed everything and went for it - I took 2-3mm off both ear caps, swapped in small screws into the original top holes of the ear caps so my visor would still hold in place, trimmed back as much of the ABS under the ear region as I could without disturbing the pop rivets, re-sited, drilled and remounted the ear caps as tilted and in-line with the back of the temple/traps as it would let me without revealing the pop-rivets. Only two bits of trauma - nearly drilled through a fan wire, and a small issue where the heat from cutting off the long bolts caused a screw on the bottom of the to pull through the ABS. But that's as 'Hopey' as I think I can get. (I'll take a look at those stripes and see what I can do though, thanks!) 1 Quote
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