justjoseph63[Staff] Posted January 21, 2019 Report Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bud Spaklur said: I’m still waiting on you to suggest proper ear-angle placement! I was gonna' wait, but what heck... (you know me too well, lol). This is the "ideal" angle/placement for the ears, Josh. 1 Quote
grimacingpeon Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Posted January 21, 2019 I was gonna' wait, but what heck... (you know me too well, lol). This is the "ideal" angle/placement for the ears, Josh.Awesome! That helps a ton. I’ve seen this before but couldn’t find it last night when I was browsing threads. I have a fiber glass helmet that was allegedly used in one of the films and according to it, the ear placement I would be attempting on this build wouldn’t cover the gap between the face and the back. This is a relief! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
CableGuy[TK] Posted January 21, 2019 Report Posted January 21, 2019 Hi Josh, I saw your other post about your lid. I think it might be that the face is not angled down enough. This is happening in lots of builds at the moment, leading to little or no gap between the eyes and the brow. Here’s a nice screen used example. Following the green line from the back cap leads nicely to a parallel line above the eye sockets. As you’ll see, it looks like yours could possibly drop by about a centimetre or so. If you imagine the ear as a pivot point, just angle the face down a little. This will give a nicer gap above the eyes and help reduce that face/back cap gap. Yours isn’t far of so just a little adjustment and you’ll be there. :-) 2 Quote
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 That is some awesome advice from Dan, Josh. Angling that down as he suggested will make a big difference and help close up that gap nicely. 1 Quote
grimacingpeon Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 14 hours ago, CableGuy said: Hi Josh, I saw your other post about your lid. I think it might be that the face is not angled down enough. This is happening in lots of builds at the moment, leading to little or no gap between the eyes and the brow. Here’s a nice screen used example. Following the green line from the back cap leads nicely to a parallel line above the eye sockets. As you’ll see, it looks like yours could possibly drop by about a centimetre or so. If you imagine the ear as a pivot point, just angle the face down a little. This will give a nicer gap above the eyes and help reduce that face/back cap gap. Yours isn’t far of so just a little adjustment and you’ll be there. :-) Dan! Thanks for the feedback. I tried this and it did help a bit. The problem that I ran into when trying to completely close the gap is that the top of the face wouldn't allow me to rotate it much because it was in full contact with the "brow" part inside the helmet back... if that makes sense. I think I would have to trim more of the face above the brow but don't have much plastic to work with at this point. Either way, that certainly helped. I began trimming the left ear last night. You guys weren't lying... it's quite a tedious task, especially as a noob. Here are a few pictures of the progress I made. I think that the disc portion of the ear still needs to be trimmed more to bring it closer to the helmet (so as to not get that earphone look as previously mentioned). I also included a picture of the helmet next to a helmet that was gifted to me in the past that was allegedly used in one of the movies? It's fiberglass, for what its worth. It is what I was basing the brow line of this helmet off of. Thanks again for all y'alls help! Quote
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 SUPER nice job on the ear placement!! I would suggest a little more trimming on the sides (especially the very bottom) but you are well on your way! Remember, the originals were far from perfect, so don't sweat it too much). Note below that the bottoms are actually pretty thin, and also how there were differences in the gaps. Quote
grimacingpeon Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 So I ended up trimming on the ear a bit the last two nights and decided to go ahead and mount it. It's by no means perfect, but I think it came out okay. You guy's weren't lying... its a PAIN! So before I move onto the next side, is there an easy suggestion for closing that REALLY small gap on the front lower curved part of the ear? It's bugging me even though the gap seems pretty small. If I shouldn't sweat it, are there any major adjustments I need to make? I know that I still need to countersink the screws and eventually paint them. Also, I'm not exactly sure where I need to cut the bottom edge of the ear so that it lines up with where the neck rubber trim will go. Any advice/constructive criticism is welcome. Thanks again 501! Quote
Commander Gree[501st] Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 Dont. Your gonna end up messing up the ears. Just my two cents. But if you really must, you need to take some off the top circle part to get it to sit closer to the helmet. It's a slippery slop your on.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Commander Gree[501st] Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 Also, this should be flat and should come off. That's too much material at the bottom.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk 1 Quote
grimacingpeon Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 Also, this should be flat and should come off. That's too much material at the bottom.Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkOh yes, that’s one of the next things I plan on knocking out. I’m at an impasse on the left side of the helmet. Even when I tried that method suggested where I tilt the helmet, I still could not bridge the gap between the front and back of the helmet. I fit the right side ear as best as I could and it turned out great. At this point I don’t know what to do with the left side. I will attach a few pictures below. The only thing I can think of is to form some sort of shim using ABS paste and try to bridge the gap? Also I think I might have to slightly reshape the lower “tubular” part of the face piece to tuck it in somewhat so that the ear will fit. A bit perplexed right now... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
TheSwede[TK] Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 It will come closer as you screw down the ear but I would first do as others suggested and trim more on the ears as they are quite thick and I can’t see the slippery slope as you have lots of material to work with and...I’m pretty sure Mike has no problem in supplying extra set if ears if it comes down to it 1 Quote
grimacingpeon Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 Thanks again for all the feedback. I was able to make a ton of progress on my day off today. My buddy came over and worked his magic on the helmet. The placement of the right ear had to be a little different but you can't really tell unless you look hard. I used the belt sander to work on a lot of the return edges and cover strips. Things are really starting to come together! I'm going to work a little bit more on the helmet, continue to try and reshape the left shin (as it still pinches pretty bad at the ankle), and then tomorrow probably move onto taping all the torso pieces together for a general fit. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Coming along nicely. Just in regards to the helmet it does appear you have the back plate a little too far back hence the big gap you had between the front and back, this make the ear position a lot further angled than normally seen. If you compare with the image below. 1 Quote
grimacingpeon Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Posted January 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: Coming along nicely. Just in regards to the helmet it does appear you have the back plate a little too far back hence the big gap you had between the front and back, this make the ear position a lot further angled than normally seen. If you compare with the image below. Doh! Right you are! This is what I get for working on it late at night after a LONG shift. Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 This is the "ideal look" but shouldn't hold you up for basic approval Quote
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