Katye's First Build Ever ANH Stunt WIP

**Frank75139[501st]** · November 18, 2018

Ok your arms are a bit out of wack. Your shoulders need to come closer to the bridges which might help with mobility. And is there something on the back of the helmet or is it the lighting? The kidney and butt plates need to be re worked so they don’t overlap as much although the belt might help with that. Legs are a bit off as well but that’s a dressing issue

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Katye · November 18, 2018

Okay let me make sure I’ve got the list right..

1. Make the should straps shorter?
2. Rotate left shin
3. Rotate left thigh
4. Top white straps make shorter so they touch the OII box
5. The butt plate needs to come in?

How do the front of the thighs and shins look they felt off to me but it was my first day in full armor

Also how does the chest look on the armor it again feels weird but I think that’s cause the boobs get in the way unfortunately ‍

Yes I had to paint the back of my helmet because the helmet kit was 3 pieces so it was a huge pain in the butt. Do I need to just paint the whole helmet the same color?

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**Rat[TK]** · November 18, 2018

Coming along pretty good. Nice to see you're getting helpful advice from some of the best people ever. Keep up the good work and soon we'll see you getting those higher levels.

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**Frank75139[501st]** · November 18, 2018

Pretty much take a look at the CRL. See how all the cover strips are straight that’s how it has to be. Then take a look at the shoulder straps and see how on the back it doesn’t touch the box. And see how close the models shoulder bells are to the straps. That’s what your supposed to look like. Your chest looks fine in my opinion and I don’t have boobs so I’m not sure how it feels with them lol. You and I have a different body shape so we aren’t gonna look completely like the CRL model but we need to be as close as possible. As for the helmet if it’s noticeable they might make you paint the whole thing, it’s hard to tell how noticeable it is from the pics. I think if you get it all aligned properly and work on the shoulder bells your gonna be in a good position but in the end your gonna have to impress your GML so I’d reach out to them with some good pics of everything aligned and see what they say about it all. The GML will be the one that approves you so they’ll have final say.

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Katye · November 18, 2018

I just noticed what Frank was talking about regarding the back of the helmet. Did something happen?

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The kit the helmet is 3 pieces so I had to cover that spot which I used and apoxie that dried grey but it didn’t sand very well but had to paint it. I tried matching the white but I might just have to paint the whole thing that color.

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Katye · November 18, 2018

Pretty much take a look at the CRL. See how all the cover strips are straight that’s how it has to be. Then take a look at the shoulder straps and see how on the back it doesn’t touch the box. And see how close the models shoulder bells are to the straps. That’s what your supposed to look like. Your chest looks fine in my opinion and I don’t have boobs so I’m not sure how it feels with them lol. You and I have a different body shape so we aren’t gonna look completely like the CRL model but we need to be as close as possible. As for the helmet if it’s noticeable they might make you paint the whole thing, it’s hard to tell how noticeable it is from the pics. I think if you get it all aligned properly and work on the shoulder bells your gonna be in a good position but in the end your gonna have to impress your GML so I’d reach out to them with some good pics of everything aligned and see what they say about it all. The GML will be the one that approves you so they’ll have final say.

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I’ve been looking at it daily throughout the build but what y’all see helps tremendously because I look in the mirror and get discouraged cause I can’t get things to fit right by myself

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I plan on putting velcro on my boots and the inside of my shins so that should help.

From the CRL and photos I’ve seen on the forum I think my thighs sit too low in the front.. does it look that way to you?

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**TheSwede[TK]** · November 18, 2018

2 hours ago, Katye said:

From the CRL and photos I’ve seen on the forum I think my thighs sit too low in the front.. does it look that way to you?

They will look fine when you alligne then like Matt suggested :duim:

Katye · November 19, 2018

Also, what kind of garter system do you have for your thighs? I currently use a garter system sold on the forum by Pencap. It works, but I find after awhile when I troop, I have found my thighs begin to sag a little. I may switch to a suspender system, but haven’t decided yet. I just realized in writing this, I could possibly move my snaps down further in the thigh.... but I digress.

Also, putting the Velcro on the top of your boot and the bottom of the inside of your shin will definitely help. I have done that myself and it works well.

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My garter system is from Pencap.

Yes I plan on doing the Velcro. I’ve been working on fixing my straps today

From your post about my biceps, I believe they were sitting wrong in those pictures because I measured my biceps cause I had to add shims to them too.

In all I had to add shims to my biceps, kidney, and thighs.

So I shimmed my kidney wrong?

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Katye · November 19, 2018

I don’t think you necessarily shimmed incorrectly- I could be wrong. I see a lot of people with the two pieces meeting more center than what you have, but then I just saw some at Centurion level in place where your kidney is meeting your ab. Don’t do anything to it and leave it for now. Once you’re all done, your best bet is to submit on the forum for the pre-approval- to get final thoughts from people about your armor. If it’s wrong, someone will chime in for sure. Leave it for now.

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Great I will if worse comes to worse I’ll try to figure it out. Hopefully it’s okay.

I think the hardest part of the build is the finessing after all the cuts, bruises and blood stops lol.

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**lucnak[TK]** · November 23, 2018

Sorry for not giving feedback here for a while - have not been as active as usual here.

Based on the photos, it does look like you have space in your biceps (at least at the bottom - hard to tell how tight they are at the top). If that assumption is correct, I believe you have made them a bit too big and you should resize these down.
For the shoulder straps, if you simply remove the flashing and leave the big bump, that's probably sufficient.
Hard to see in your photos, but make sure that the cover strips on the back of the shins don't go over the ridge, they should stop right under it.
I would suggest trimming your butt plate so that the shape is more like what is seen on screen overall. That corner might poke you! Would also echo the suggestion to lightly reshape the butt plate in a little on the sides. Recommend a hot water bath over a heat gun - much safer.
Using snaps or velcro will keep your belt in place in the front - it should sit horizontally and ideally covers/touches the bottom of the large button plate.
I would personally trim the back plate "wings" a bit. They seem longer than what is screen accurate.

For some great reference, be sure to check out the FISD gallery here:

https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/gallery/

Katye · November 28, 2018

I took new photos this weekend.

I can’t figure out how to get the back of the left thigh to not turn on me

The knee plate gives me a headache I don’t know how to fix it from popping under the thigh.

I know my detonator is in the wrong spot

I got my shoulder straps cut down per previous feedback

I shortened the shoulder bell elastic per previous feedback but now it looks goofy in the back

I believe I got the butt fixed from sticking out so much but now my kidney looks goofy ‍

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**Frank75139[501st]** · November 28, 2018

You got a lot done. A few things that might hold you up

Your shoulder bells are too small. This is why you have the gap in the back. And you’ve still got some overlap in the kidney/back area

Lines should be straight this is another issue with the shoulder bells being too small.

Also not sure how to fix this but you don’t want that overlap here either.

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**Frank75139[501st]** · November 28, 2018

As for the thigh turning I think if you did a garter system that might help. Also the knee issue can be resolved with some foam inside the shin to push it out in front of the thigh. I also cut a small amount from the bottom of my shin to bring it down a bit so it didn’t catch as much.

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Katye · November 28, 2018

I am using Pencaps garter system. which is great but that damn left one keeps moving, wonder if its cause of me trying to keep the knee plate from popping under it. I will try the foam in my shin to see if that helps

Yes I looked at CRL and the back and kidney connection I realized I missed it.

The kidney on the sides I am not sure what to do because I have the strapping as tight as it can go.

Katye · November 28, 2018

Next question would be, who sells larger shoulder bells?

**ukswrath[Staff]** · November 29, 2018

5 hours ago, Katye said:

I am using Pencaps garter system. which is great but that damn left one keeps moving, wonder if its cause of me trying to keep the knee plate from popping under it. I will try the foam in my shin to see if that helps

Yes I looked at CRL and the back and kidney connection I realized I missed it.

The kidney on the sides I am not sure what to do because I have the strapping as tight as it can go.

For basic you should be fine with the kidney gap. EIB if you choose to shoot for it is roughly 1/2" gap or less :duim:

5 hours ago, Katye said:

Next question would be, who sells larger shoulder bells?

AM or RT-Mod. Contact information can be found in the "Armor and where to but it" section

**StrmTRPR85[TK]** · November 29, 2018

Your TD needs to be hooked onto your belt not the butt plate.

**Frank75139[501st]** · November 29, 2018

Agree! I’ve got AM armor and it fits me well I’m broad shouldered and about 250lbs. You could probably get a set of bells.

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Katye · November 29, 2018

Agree! I’ve got AM armor and it fits me well I’m broad shouldered and about 250lbs. You could probably get a set of bells.

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Yea me too on the broad shoulders and weight. It’s been a task to get it all sized right. I thought I had my kidney in the right place to be able to go higher levels but looking like that’s not the case unless I can get stubborn fat to come off

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**Frank75139[501st]** · November 29, 2018

Lol I feel you pain. It might need a hot water bath to kind of reposition it all.

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Katye · November 29, 2018

I tried to do most of the forming with the heat gun but the heat bath will be my next step if need be. Just gotta to some research on it so I don’t screw it up.

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**Frank75139[501st]** · November 29, 2018

I tried to do most of the forming with the heat gun but the heat bath will be my next step if need be. Just gotta to some research on it so I don’t screw it up.

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Heat bath is easier then a heat gun. Just get some hot water in a bin or bucket and dip the part in. It’ll take a bit longer to do but there’s no chance of a burn or fire.

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**Sly11[Admin]** · November 29, 2018

Wow this has come a long way, great work Katye :duim:

Katye · September 14

Alright, so life happened and covid and all the craziness in between and I never got my suit finished, I finally for the first time in like 4 years I put the suit on and took another set of pictures, and the suits have been in big stanley bins in storage so I am almost positive I need to reshape a good bit with heat, I am going to rewatch and read all the forums but if anyone has to some tips.

1. I think the butt needs to be trimmed around my thigh area to fit better

2. The back plate still pinches in, I am going to try heat if that doesnt work I will go back to the bath.

3. I know the helmet is sitting low i feel, I am going to try to put the hard hat insert in so that I can try to sit it right before I even begin to install electronics.

4. My thigh pieces look like they either need trimmed more because they sit so low on my knees or if I need to try moving the belt system higher for them to pull up more.

Thanks everyone for any tips before I begin again

**gmrhodes13[Staff]** · September 14

Welcome back, you may have noticed your build thread had been moved to "Build Threads Requireing Maintenance" this is because most of your images are missing and left with broken links, if you do have a copy it would be great if you could update your build thread :duim:

A little difficult to see some details as your photos are of a low resolution but here are a few things you may want to address:

Definitely looks like your thighs should come up as they are hitting your shins.

Are your biceps snug or loose as they could be smaller?

With cover strips they normally sit just inside the raised ridges (not all armor makes have the raised ridges), in your case you needed more room, this makes an issue as the raised areas are quite wide. In some cases people remove the raised areas and glue flat pieces, adding ABS paste and sanding/polish. If the gap between the raised ridges is not too big you can add larger cover strips, I would however speak with your GML (garrison membership liaison) as to how wide is acceptable for approval.

This is an example of adding a shim after raised ridge has been removed

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Although these are for thighs but you can see what I mean with the raised areas, they have been removed in these threads

You may need to trim your backplate so it sits above the kidney, one corner is stuck inside your kidney the other corner outside, but does look quite low. There are a few build threads which have made mods to the armor to better fit with height

https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/38416-crickets-rs-stunt-build-for-the-vertically-challenged/

https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/38842-fragarocks-rs-stunt-build-not-to-scale/

https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/42868-sha-shas-wtf-anh-stunt-build-complete/

For the posterior you may be able to add extra strapping more towards the front edges OR add some V tabs

With a heat gun (or in oven) you bend strips of ABS plastic into the shape of a V, only glue one side and the other remains free to allow movement when you bend. Just helps stop the butt plate from pushing back from the back plate.

A couple of adjustments you could make. Bring your belt up a little more at the front.

The top of the ABS belt shall sit at or just above the bottom of the central and vertical ab button panels. A slight overlap is suggested, but not required.