riveting Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Well A couple of folk's asked me to pop this up a while ago & now I have a little time here it is. My, how to: make one of these I was hopeing to knock this out all in one day & post it all up, in one fell swoop but sadly the UK Summer is as reliable as ever So to help me keep track of it, I will post a few pic's every couple of day's with an update. I would greatly appreciate any questions in either a pm or at the end of the thread if thats OK just to keep the topic nice & tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 You will need. Black Leather (Soft Leather) no more than 1mm thick ideally Strong contact adhesive & a well ventilated area Strong spray on adhesive (carpet glue) Black canvas type material Black cotton black Suit liner type material (anything slinky) Black Matt material & or silk. Black neoprene cord Black 2" Velcro 7 (furry side) black 1" velcro (Hook Side) Ruler, scissors, pencil, needle, Old Tooth brush, Contact glue applicator I'l edit this post with all the individual dimensions as soon as I've measured them all up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 OK roughly cut the canvas type material into a rectangle 5 & half inch wide by 20+? inch long. Fold the canvas in half by it's length (rough side facing out) & pop the hook type, 1 inch velcro down (on an angle) one end. Ok there is lot's of info in these few pic's So I'l do what I can to explain without killing the thread with too many pic's. The half measurement is dependant on your own collar size!!!. As seen I take my collar measurement on an angle from the top, where the velcro is pitching down toward the centre of the neckseal. the neckseal in the pic is for a 17-17 half'ish collar. Take the pencil & with the ruler in hand, mark out a straight edge, in line with the velcro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Next with the scissors make a short nick into where the pencil line is line is on the folded canvas. make sure the cut goes through the top & bottom parts of the folded canvas now open the canvas & where the freshly cut nick's are on the bottom edge, with pencil & ruler mark out a straight line & cut tidy up (trim the edge's of the one inch velcro- canvas bit) now pop the 2 inch furry velcro into the inside edge of the canvas ( if you use self adhesive velcro) it may make it a tad easier at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 if you used non self adhesive velcro? now would be a good time to run a stich over them. once those are held in place get the carpet (spray) glue & adhere a nice even, liberal layer of glue onto the rough side of the canvas. this should the same side as the hook Velcro is facing out from & the opposite side that the furry Velcro is on. the reason for using this type of glue at this stage is that it sits on the material & doesn't get absorbed by it thus leaving the neck seal quite flexible for ltr on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 OK now we can leave the base fot a short while & start cutting the leather. just cut the leather into quarter inch wide strip's, I tend to cut them long initially as it's easier to reduce the length ltr when needed, So about 26" long to be safe. & now it's time to cut the neoprene cord, again same length as before. Sorry for the varying degree's in quality of pic's but everything's black & not that easy to photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Now come's the fun bit, To reduce how needlessly sticky thing's get a small investment in one of these is essential, plus the amount of glue that's saved from spillage & wastage is unreal. I think it's a hair product thingymajig, I was given it as the family was complaining about the amount of glue I was going through & the amount of money I was spending it cut's down on fumes too <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Ok so run a bead of glue down the leather strip & a bead of glue also down the neoprene cord, wait a few moments & marry the two together. squeeze the two item's together to expel any excess glue, with a little practice with the applicator there won't be any. after these two have dried, you should end up with something resembling this. A rib! Now trim one end, I tend to trim the left side first. Taper the edge in profile with the base canvas, & taper the underside of the rib in by about 20-30mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Now check for length, in comparison with the base canvas. Cut the right hand side of the rib down if needed, then when happy repeat the taper on the right side underside, the profile gets trimmed ltr. test fit When satisfied, glue the rib onto the canvas with the contact adhesive. Repeat this process about nine time's or how many time's it is untill your happy with the overall look of the base rib's. as show above cut more lengths of ever smaller lengths of leather strip's, your own judgement is invaluable here to get a nice esthetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 OK, time to cut the little rib's here's a step by step approach of each stage of the rib assembly. Starting Top Down After screaming more light Aziz for long enough this morning, I got a fraction more. So: 1 cut the neoprene about 10mm shy short of the length of leather. 2 cut the neoprene into a V point on one end 3 glue as the rib's mentioned before & turn over (it should resemble a spear) 4 Cut into the leather at the same end of the rib thats pointed, taper the cut on the underside 5 trim the butt end of the rib on an angle at the same pitch as the base canvas (this applies only to the rib's that will be on the left side of the neckseal) Easy bit: glue the rib's to the canvas using the contact adhesive & applicator. my appologies for anyone on dial up, when the threads finished I'l edit the entire thing depending on the questions I recieve (if any) & I'll kill some pic's in the process too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 So today we need to put the collar down & step away from the glue. because the bib, apron, pinny (thanks Billy) <_< needs making. Cut a rectangle from whatever material you like matt or shiny 41" by 16" you will also need four length's of the tie's material, black ribbon or tape each 1" wide by about 20" long will do. now to make an enduring bib you'l need to Sew a hem on all four side's of the bib. This can be done by hand of course but will take a couple of hour's longer. The use of safety helmet is advisable but by no means necessary. While your at the hem you might use this as an opportunity to attach the four tie's, a few inch up from the bottom works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krkconsult[TK] Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Awesome tutorial for an awesome neck-seal. Nice work. Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Excellent tutorial - the Emperor is pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatshock[501st] Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 all I can say to that is 0.0 nice work man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma238 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Yes, Thank you for your fine Tutorial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billhag Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 So today we need to put the collar down & step away from the glue. because the bib, apron, pinny (thanks Billy) <_< needs making........ "Pinny?"....who mentioned anything about "pinny's"? ..... ...Now who'd like a nice, lovely cuppa tea,....how 'bout you dear? Steve Fantastic tutorial mate, for what must surely be, without doubt, the BEST God damn neckseal in the World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted August 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Many thanks Guy's I hope the threads of use to someone & if you do make your own, don't forget to post a thread inc pic's & if you make an improved version then pls share BTW this Tutorial was'nt actually finished yet But seeing as ppl want it to be over I'l edit my last previous post & stick the last pic's in there, over the nxt day or two. ps I'd luv a cuppa right now more T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma238 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Keep the step by step coming. I just wanted you to know that your Tutorial is really good and very detailed, makes it easier on me not to make a mistake . Well less mistakes anyway So bring on the learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK6631[501st] Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I didn't think you'd finished steve..please carry on..I've got my sewing machine out now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted September 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Due to poor weather conditions there was a brief pause in transmission over the weekend but we resume... I also made a fatal error by moving on the process without taking pic's, so I've cut a new bib again with what should come nxt. Fold the bib length ways & once again width ways, make a small nick in the centre corner. Measure the bottom length of your premade collar from tip to tip not including the velcro, basically where the two side will meet at the back. With this measurement Take a compass & draw a circle in diameter equal to the width of the base collar. Make four cut's running from the centre of the bib running out toward but short of the drawn circle. Descide wich side will be the back of the bib & cut a couple of inch down. Before attaching the bib & collar together you might want to sew a fold seam on the back of the bib, this will prevent fraying from your head poking in & out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Hi All, for those following this thread I did'nt want to leave it hanging but I've been juggling too much stuff recently but this thread will be done by the end of tomorrow & the Auction will be listed on the weekend for the seal made. many thanks for your patience. BTW if any one want's to buy any of the neoprene cord I have left over just pm me it's £3.90 delivered anywhere for as much as you need to make your own seal, thats several meters to you & me it will arrive in one length ready for you to cut to size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Back in the swing again OK So take the base & lay it over whatever slinky material your going to use for the liner & sizzors in hand cut a gerenous rectangle as pictured. flip them both over & having the nice side of the material facing the rib's & sew as close into the rib line as you can, don't have too wide a gap on the stitches as it will pucker ltr, the thin blue line is for demonstration purposes only once it's all been sew along the top (please ignore the fact that I hav'nt done as suggested, as I do this on machine for speed but I've had lot's of practice & it's very difficult to do if your only making one) cut all the excess material off. Don't cut into the stitching as it may mean starting from scratch I know flip them over again & this time let the material fall over the back & this is what it should resemble only a couple more pic's to go & I've finished, Yeah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 & finally turn the base of the neskseal upside down, take the bib & place that inside out & upside down. Pin the bib to the neckseal. here's a few pic's as it's not very easy to describe or take pic's of but you'l get the general jist of it. Flip the whole thing over, right way up & right way round Sew the liner to the base & bib (ergo =) sew's the bib to the base & liner at the bottom edge of the neckseal. Remove the pin's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riveting Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Now that you've removed the pin's next put the neck seal over your head tie the side tie's & get your lid Go out with a mean frown or your face & go trooping you might want to get some armor on as well?? finally for those wanting to buy one off these? here's your chance to join me in giving a little back to the forum. Buy this "it's for charidy" http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...E:IT&ih=006 item Number: 160285545864 thanks for your patience guy's, I hope it's been helpful? if not I'll pull the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VacTrooper Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 can't see the pics at school, but i'm sure it looks nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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