TK-10204 Requesting ANH Stunt EIB Status [AP][638]

[CrookKnight[TK]]

APPROVED

 

Name: Shawn Cantey

501st ID: TK 10204

FISD Forum Name: CrookKnight

Garrison: Carolina Garrison

 

Armor Maker: AP

Helmet Maker: AP

Blaster Type: Elite E-11 Hyperfirm

Height: 5'9"

Weight: 175 lbs

Boots Maker: TK Boots

Canvas Belt: 501st Member

Hand Plates Type: Rubber / Vinyl

Electronics: Fans / I-Comm / Microphone / Hovi Tips / Speakers by Ukswrath

Neck Seal Type: Darman's with zipper in the back

Holster Maker: Darman 8oz leather holster

 

Photos are below:

 

Front - Arms at Side

 

 

Front picture retaken with lettering removed from left shoulder bell and chest plate and ab plate properly positioned:

 

 

Back - Arms at Sides

 

 

Rear retaken with gap closed between kidney and back plate:

 

 

Left - Arms Raised

 

 

Right - Arms Raised

 

 

Right Side Detail - Arms Raised

 

 

Left Side Detail - Arms Raised

 

 

Abdomen Details

 

 

Action Shot

 

 

Cod and Butt Plate Attachment

 

 

Interior Strapping

 

 

 

Black elastic at shoulder bell:

 

 

Helmet Front

 

 

Helmet Side

 

 

 

Helmet Back

 

 

Hovi Tip Detail

 

 

Lens Color

 

 

Helmet Interior Electronics

 

 

Blaster Left

 

 

Blaster Right

 

 

Blaster Back

 

 

Neck Seal

 

 

Thermal Detonator

 

 

 

Holster Attachment

 

 

Thank you

Edited October 4, 2016 by CrookKnight

[Novak Dimon[TK]]

Hi Shawn,

Your armor is looking cool but I spotted some things you should look after though.

The first thing I saw was the decal with your TK Number at the left shoulder. It's looking cool but it shouldn't be there.

The next point is the gap between Ab and Chest. The Chest should overlap the Ab. The Gap between Kidney and Back armor is a bit to big. It seems the whole lower armor is sitting too low. Maybe an issue of the pic but perhaps you can try to shorten the strapping at the back and install longer elastic at the front to allow the Chest to slide over the Ab.

The connection between Abdomen and Kidney armor is made in a way I never seen before. I'm not sure if it is EIB compatible.

The Helmet is looking very good but I'm unsure about the gap between the top of your helmet and the rear piece. I heard of Helmets made of three parts but are they good for Level 2 and above? I think I have to read some AP-builds to check that out.

I wish you all the best and good luck with your approval!

Christian

Edited September 12, 2016 by Novak Dimon

[CrookKnight[TK]]

Thank you for your comments.  I am aware of the issue with the overlapping of the kidney and chest plate and back plates.  When I took the pictures I was not wearing my interior suspenders that usually boost up the lower portion of the armor.  When I do wear them, the lower portion of the armor sits higher therefore allowing for more overlap.

 

I bought this armor from a former 501st member that had purchased from AP.  It came with the side pieces connecting the front abs to the back plate.  I tried to remove it, but it is glued very well.  I might be able to remove it with more work.

 

Thank you for your comments.

[CrookKnight[TK]]

In regards to the 3 piece helmet, about half of my Garrison has this.  Please let me know if this needs to be changed.  The only thing I could do would be to use bondo and paint.  I would rather not do this.

[Novak Dimon[TK]]

I checked several EIB request threads but found no 3 piece helmets yet.

But the CLR don't say anything against it so it should be no issue.

[CrookKnight[TK]]

Christian,

 

Per your recommendations, I removed the TK sticker off of my left shoulder bell and re-took the front and back picture with my internal belt on to allow for the ab plate and back plate to sit normally.  You will notice the front gap is gone and the back gap is within tolerance.

 

Thank you for the pointers.

 

Below are the pictures:

 

 

[Novak Dimon[TK]]

Hi Shawn,

I'm always happy to help. And the fitting of your armor is so much better now!

One more thing: The snaps of your Posterior Armor are looking like one male and one female. The CLR say two male snaps have to be there.

If they are both male it might help your application if you post a picture showing the inside of the Posterior Armor.

All the best!

Christian

Edited September 12, 2016 by Novak Dimon

[CrookKnight[TK]]

Thanks. They are both male. One is just a different style.

 

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[CrookKnight[TK]]

How long until you think it will be officially reviewed?

 

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[CrookKnight[TK]]

Christian,

 

I took a picture of the double male snaps on the posterior armor.  They are both male.  It is a bit messy, since it used to have velcro in this area.  Before I installed the snaps, I tried to get all of the velcro off, however, I was not successful.  At least it is on the inside of the armor and not the outside.  Below is the picture:

 

[sylverbard[TK]]

They are both male but one has the wrong backing. The front has to be a rivet, you seem to have three snaps. I'd compare to other ei submissions and make them match.

And try goo b gone or goof off to soften up the Velcro glue, or ice if it's e6000 to make the glue more brittle so it pops off.

Edited September 14, 2016 by sylverbard

[CrookKnight[TK]]

Thanks. I will make those changes.

 

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[sylverbard[TK]]

And...I just noticed where the left side rivets are...I'd wait for clarification from the DOs but should they meet at a seam or be spaced that far apart across a shim?

[Novak Dimon[TK]]

And...I just noticed where the left side rivets are...I'd wait for clarification from the DOs but should they meet at a seam or be spaced that far apart across a shim?

Well the CLR for level 2 don't mention the rivets at all.

"For level two certification (if applicable):

Any gap between the abdomen and kidney armor is no more than 1/2" (12.5mm) wide.

Any shims used to achieve this effect are of a similar material and color as the abdomen and kidney armor. Shims fit flush and seams are allowed."

 

But I agree with you: the DO's have the last word here!

[CrookKnight[TK]]

I am going to still cleanup the velcro at the posterior cod piece and replace the front snap with a rivet.  This should not be too hard.  All of this velcro is from the previous owner of the armor.  Apparently, the previous owner needed the shims on the side for the armor.  I looked at removing, but since the kidney plates were cut as they were, if I removed them, I would not meet the 1/2" gap.  It would be much larger.  

[Alay[TK]]

Hi Shawn, just a question as it's hard to see from the pictures;  Do the shoulders have a black elastic strapping around the inside of the bicep?

[CrookKnight[TK]]

Hi Shawn, just a question as it's hard to see from the pictures;  Do the shoulders have a black elastic strapping around the inside of the bicep?

No.

[CrookKnight[TK]]

I have installed the rivet on the front cod and installed the proper male snap on the rear.  They now are compliant with the CRL.  Thanks.

 

Photo is below:

[Novak Dimon[TK]]

Hi Shawn,<br><br>

Good work. That's looking much better! I like that you also filled the hole with ABS paste! <br><br>

A split rivet instead the pop rivet would look nicer but I guess it will do the job.

Edited September 15, 2016 by Novak Dimon

[CrookKnight[TK]]

I still have not learned how to do a split rivet. I have them.

 

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[CrookKnight[TK]]

If anyone has instructions on how to install the split rivet please let me know.

 

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[TD42115[501st]]

If anyone has instructions on how to install the split rivet please let me know.

 

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Shawn, 

 

Take a look at this build thread, Danny explains the process for kidney, ab plates..

 

http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/30595-ap-armour-with-anh-centurion-as-goal-build-thread/page-4

 

Chris 

[Alay[TK]]

If anyone has instructions on how to install the split rivet please let me know.

 

Drill 1/8" holes for the rivets.

 

The split rivets go through.  Remember to add the washer.  I then take a screwdriver head and pry the eye open a bit.

 

Needlenose pliers to pull them out about 80 degrees.  Then a whack or two of the hammer to set them good.

[CrookKnight[TK]]

Chris and Sarah,

 

Thank you for all of the advice and instructions.  I will give it a try tonight and see what happens.  Thanks again.

[sylverbard[TK]]

Well the CLR for level 2 don't mention the rivets at all.

"For level two certification (if applicable):

Any gap between the abdomen and kidney armor is no more than 1/2" (12.5mm) wide.

Any shims used to achieve this effect are of a similar material and color as the abdomen and kidney armor. Shims fit flush and seams are allowed."

 

But I agree with you: the DO's have the last word here!

No rivets are level 3 I thought they were basic approval. Mines always had them.

 

Shoulder bells do need the black elastic that goes around the biceps though. That is base approval. Lots of gmls miss it.