Alay[TK] Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I've seen many posts from disappointed and frustrated troopers that didn't properly heed this advice. No experience with either, but everyone always says if you're going to go the heat gun route then to make sure you get comfortable using it on some scrap ABS first. Consider it heeded, warm to hot water seems much safer. Would a hair dryer on low work as a light duty method too or too hot? Got some more tools for the job from home depot. These videos have been great: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDunMes3e0wQn8_ns-ma4g 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strength Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I have the same Smith's that you grab two. They're really great, but they're pretty limiting in terms of tight areas and when you're trying to do long stretches on the sides. If you can grab a set of utility Snips that fit like scissors. Both of these are going to be super helpful for you. Otherwise, you are well on your way to getting started on the right foot. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewpewpew[TK] Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I got those same clamps when I started to go with some other kinds that I already had. I bet you probably think you'll never need that many clamps at one time don't you? Ha! Boy, was I surprised too.<br> Where'd you get the magnets from, if I might ask? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Where'd you get the magnets from, if I might ask? Everything from Home Depot. They were on sale too... 2/$4 so I figured why not! So many clamps though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewpewpew[TK] Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) That's crazy cheap! I paid almost $50 for a dozen at Princess Auto! I demand a do-over! I had no idea Home Depot carried them. Do you recall what section of the store? I'm not sure if they're hardware or tool and their website isn't being exactly helpful.<br> Just noticed now that you're in Windsor, CT, but I misread as Windsor, ON. Big difference in our dollar right now. Probably explains a lot. Edited July 1, 2016 by pewpewpew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) That's crazy cheap! I paid almost $50 for a dozen at Princess Auto! I demand a do-over! I had no idea Home Depot carried them. Do you recall what section of the store? I'm not sure if they're hardware or tool and their website isn't being exactly helpful.<br> Just noticed now that you're in Windsor, CT, but I misread as Windsor, ON. Big difference in our dollar right now. Probably explains a lot. Dollar difference shouldn't be that huge though! I believe they were by the screws/fasteners/etc in the store. They didn't have a huge selection though! I figured I'd start on the Biceps! But I don't have my black elastic yet (tomorrow) so.... Forearms it is! Also... I do have the correct pair there.. yeah? I heard the left-side inside has some curve to it, the right arm is more straight on Bit of masking tape to hold one edge side by side. I lined up the wrist edge roughly... should I do it from the other side instead? It's also pretty long on my arm, but not awful... should I trim it shorter? If so from what side? There's also a fair bit of gap between my arm/the armor. Obviously I need enough room to slide my wrist in and out. Should I trim it back to about the overlap? Which side should I take the material off (I assume the inside?) Edited July 1, 2016 by Alay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 TD Tube painted with some Testors Euro Gray I had left over from a model Soyuz rocket I made earlier this year... close enough I think for that. If not I'll go over with another matte gray. Glued my drop cases together, one straight on, the other like this: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/35918-hasos-anh-stunt-tk-build-ap-armour/#entry474581 Haso with the fantastic idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zv288bot[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) I would hold off on trimming any length until everything is glued in place. You can always trim more off later to ease movement.<br><br> Also, with AP, it's my understanding that we basically got two left side arms. So they won't really be mirror images to each other. Edited July 2, 2016 by zv288bot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I would hold off on trimming any length until everything is glued in place. You can always trim more off later to ease movement.<br><br> Also, with AP, it's my understanding that we basically got two left side arms. So they won't really be mirror images to each other. Thanks for the information! Should I take the width down on the forearm at all before adding strips? Or leave it thick and pad the inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Finally did a layout and full sizing... masking tape is everywhere! God bless my husband for putting up with and helping me with this Chest/Back seem fine, but I'm absolutely going to need to reduce the kidneys and/or abs on the sides. There's a 3-6" gap between me and the kidney The arms though seem to be fine with the undersuit on. The bells will come in closer when it's not falling off with tape from the shoulders. Snapped this one just before the whole chest area fell apart completely... The thighs and shins will almost definitely have to be trimmed smaller in width as they're quite large for my legs, but I'm going to focus on the arms and torso first I reckon Edited July 2, 2016 by Alay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zv288bot[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Thanks for the information! Should I take the width down on the forearm at all before adding strips? Or leave it thick and pad the inside?I would leave the outside edge correct and trim the inside edge to fit but you are gonna wanna make sure the size of your biceps are as close as possible in diameter to your forearms. So, if you need to add foam to the forearms to keep the look then I would do so. So in short, size your biceps and then see where you need to go with your forearms if any of this makes sense. Sent from my LGLS740 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zv288bot[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Finally did a layout and full sizing... masking tape is everywhere! God bless my husband for putting up with and helping me with this Chest/Back seem fine, but I'm absolutely going to need to reduce the kidneys and/or abs on the sides. There's a 3-6" gap between me and the kidney The arms though seem to be fine with the undersuit on. The bells will come in closer when it's not falling off with tape from the shoulders. Snapped this one just before the whole chest area fell apart completely... The thighs and shins will almost definitely have to be trimmed smaller in width as they're quite large for my legs, but I'm going to focus on the arms and torso first I reckon It doesn't look to far off. You will definitely need to take some off the kidney section. It is my understanding that if you are going to adjust size, you do so off the kidney leaving the AB alone. If you plan on going centurion then you'll have to redo the kidney notches. For basic and EIB the notch is not required on the kidney. Thank goodness for our better halves. My wife chuckled a few times during the process. Sent from my LGLS740 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Mate you've been a huge help so far! Thanks for the feedback I'll start on the kidney side when I get to trimming there. I think my plan of attack is going to be chest -> shoulders/biceps -> forearms -> abs/kidney/butt -> thighs/shins. The shoulder bells fit me pretty good (might need a tiny piece of padding on the bicep inner for comfort but we'll see), so the forearms with some padding will likely be the way. I now understand that E6000 comes off fairly easily so I'm not as afraid of having to break it down and trim again after gluing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Snaps are a real pain in the an impolite person to set 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewpewpew[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Snaps are a real pain in the an impolite person to set Gotta love that filter, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Gotta love that filter, lol. Should have changed it to "Donkey"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zv288bot[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Mate you've been a huge help so far! Thanks for the feedback I'll start on the kidney side when I get to trimming there. I think my plan of attack is going to be chest -> shoulders/biceps -> forearms -> abs/kidney/butt -> thighs/shins. The shoulder bells fit me pretty good (might need a tiny piece of padding on the bicep inner for comfort but we'll see), so the forearms with some padding will likely be the way. I now understand that E6000 comes off fairly easily so I'm not as afraid of having to break it down and trim again after gluing You're welcome. E6000 is the way to go, I had to redo one of my shins and with some effort, the cover strip came off with no issues. Also, just a reminder, with the shoulder bells you can leave some return edge if it will help you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zv288bot[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Snaps are a real pain in the an impolite person to set Ugh I know, I still have a couple of snaps that I know I will have to replace at some point. There is a small tutorial video on the tandy website (or was it youtube) that gives you some pointers on how to do it. I also believe Tony (Ukswrath) has a video on Youtube showing the process as well. Are you doing ABS or Nylon web strapping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Are you doing ABS or Nylon web strapping? Got a set of nylons from Redforce over in his project sale thread: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/26931-webbing-snap-plates-30-piece-set/ So far I have one set of snaps done... Haven't managed to hit my thumb yet with my hammer so that's a plus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Hammer and Anvil was hell. I found this at Joanne's for like $10 after a coupon. You can buy it amazon too it looks like. For a bit of wrist pressure and a lot less headache for me (and my poor neighbors!) it sets them quite well. Unfortunately, when I was hammering the first set in I realized they're actually both the "female" snap side, while everything I've read says to use the male side for the nylon meshes and the female side for the elastic. Should I redo this one, or is it not a big enough deal to worry about? In better news, bicep is setting Went with a 20mm coverstrip because that seemed about right. Edited July 3, 2016 by Alay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewpewpew[TK] Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Actually, if you have a bolt or quick change type drill bit that fits inside the snap, you can use it to hammer the little split tabs in there to a flatter more secure position. I do it to all my snaps, but I've never used the tool you have. Then again, I'm also really new to this as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Hammer and Anvil was hell. I found this at Joanne's for like $10 after a coupon. You can buy it amazon too it looks like. For a bit of wrist pressure and a lot less headache for me (and my poor neighbors!) it sets them quite well. Unfortunately, when I was hammering the first set in I realized they're actually both the "female" snap side, while everything I've read says to use the male side for the nylon meshes and the female side for the elastic. Should I redo this one, or is it not a big enough deal to worry about? I found this useful for snaps http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/28934-howto-make-snaps-hold/?hl=snaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Welp... that's it! I'm literally out of clamps and magnets. Shoulder Bell strappings and the Bicep is gluing. Chest/Back snap plates are gluing. Thermal Detonator is all glued and drilled too! I might sand that bottom edge down a bit more, later on... Any suggestions for storage/mannequins? My husband wants our dinner table back... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretzel Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Looking good. Keep up the great work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted July 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Thanks Razgriz! I'm finally over the initial feeling of being overwhelmed. Feels great to be making forward progress 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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