Toddo[TK] Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I trooped the Power of Costume exhibit last night at the EMP in Seattle, and they have a screen-used Endor TK on display. I'll post some photos later, but there was one surprise: The shoulder straps were clearly attached to the chest plate using snaps. I looked for signs that Velcro had been used previously, but the weathering was consistent around the snap to the rest of the costume. Quote
sskunky Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Are you sure it wasn't a tour suit? Interesting! Would love to see it. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 Yeah, it was definitely an Endor suit. Here are some photos: Here is the one showing the snap. Flash is not allowed, so it's not the best quality, but you can see the snap extremely well in person: I'll return when it isn't so busy and snap all kinds of better pics. Quote
The5thHorseman[501st] Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 On this one, i can see Velcro. However, i'd be interested in how the shoulder straps are fastened to the shoulder bridges if you can figure it. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 Yeah, it's Velcro on the back and snaps on the front. I'll see if I can determine how the bridges are attached next time I'm there. Quote
The5thHorseman[501st] Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Instead of snaps i rather lend towards rivets (a lot more ROTJ style), but they're definetely not glued or velcroed at the front. Quote
troopermaster Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Looking forward to seeing much more of this armour. Please take lots of photos Interesting about the snap. All ROTJ armour I have seen have a rivet on the front and Velcro on the back. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 Instead of snaps i rather lend towards rivets (a lot more ROTJ style), but they're definetely not glued or velcroed at the front. In person, it is 100% clear that it is a standard snap. In those lighting conditions, it's going to be tough to photograph it though. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 Looking forward to seeing much more of this armour. Please take lots of photos Interesting about the snap. All ROTJ armour I have seen have a rivet on the front and Velcro on the back. You got it Paul. This looks like the same exact suit featured in the Star Wars Costumes book. Here is a good shot of the whole suit I grabbed from Geekwire: Here's another nice shot of the top taken from the Seattle PI: Quote
troopermaster Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Would you say it was a standard snap riveted to the shoulder bridge and snapped to the chest of can you see a 15mm snap head on the outside of the shoulder bridge? Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 Would you say it was a standard snap riveted to the shoulder bridge and snapped to the chest of can you see a 15mm snap head on the outside of the shoulder bridge? That is hard to say for certain from what I can see; however, I think it likely is how you are describing. Quote
sskunky Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I'm loving this. It's always exciting discovering new finds and details. Paul, I need to pick your brains on something. I'll pm you. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 I'm with you Mark. My garrison-mates didn't even realize this was ROTJ while I'm geeking-out over the details. Most of those details have already been discovered, but the shoulder strap snap is a new one, and I couldn't wait to share. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 I made it back this morning to take more photos. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 This photo doesn't capture it well, but the skinny elastic strap connecting the shoulder bell to the arm is present: Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 I took a good look at the shoulder bridge elastic from the bells to the bridges. The elastic goes from the bell to the fabric strap underneath the plastic straps. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 Here is a good shot of the snaps under the shoulder straps: Quote
troopermaster Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 These are great photos, Todd. Thank you so much for sharing Did you notice what the colours of the ab buttons were? Were they all the same or did they have any other colours? (Hard to tell the colour from the photos) Could you tell if the boots were painted white or were they white leather? And the shoulder bell straps, could you see if they were glued to the Velcro under the bridges or was there a snap there? Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 These are great photos, Todd. Thank you so much for sharing Did you notice what the colours of the ab buttons were? Were they all the same or did they have any other colours? (Hard to tell the colour from the photos) Could you tell if the boots were painted white or were they white leather? And the shoulder bell straps, could you see if they were glued to the Velcro under the bridges or was there a snap there? Thanks Paul. It's hard to tell in person with the ab buttons too as the lighting is dramatic and dim; however, I think they are all the same color. I didn't see any paint flaking off the boots. To my surprise, they looked to me like they were actually white leather. As for the shoulder straps, I couldn't capture it with a camera, but I could see that beneath the plastic straps was a texture that looked like the hook side of velcro. It also looks like that is what the shoulder bells attach to. 1 Quote
Colin1138[TK] Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Great pcs! I notice in pic 2 and 3,..no sign of any rivets on the front of the shoulder bridges. Seems some suits had them,..some didn't.Perhaps on location repairs? Also,..what's with the visible snap on the butt plate? First time i've seen that.... 30years later,..and we're stil finding out new things! Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Great photos Todd. I hope you don't mind if we stick them in the reference gallery later? Quote
troopermaster Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Also,..what's with the visible snap on the butt plate? First time i've seen that.... It's the same as on ANH suits but the strap is glued inside the cod instead of riveted and it's fixed to a single snap on the butt plate. Quote
The5thHorseman[501st] Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Thank you very much Todd, i'm glad you figured how the shoulder bells are fastened to the shoulder bridges. That's something i was wondering for a while. And indeed, on the shoulder bridges there's no sign of rivets, or of the second part of the snap. I guess on this armor the snaps were directly glued to the bridge, but on others i think they were certainly secured via a rivet. Also,..what's with the visible snap on the butt plate? First time i've seen that.... Like on ANH, that snap is for securing the crotch strap: Edited February 2, 2015 by The5thHorseman Quote
Colin1138[TK] Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Yes I know what it's for,..but on all the screencaps i viewed when building mine,the butt plate had no visable snaps;ie like the crotch it was seemingly glued to the inside.. Very easy to see on the poor guy who gets thrown head first over Han's shoulder. Infact,the CRL states no visible snaps to be used, There seems to have been some serious variety in how the original suits were put together... Quote
sskunky Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 The problem we have is we are looking at 30 year old armour. Who knows what mods or repaired it's had over the years. Quote
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