ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hello Troopers, Thought I'd post a build thread on rear calf closure clips, aka Bra Clips. I know you can buy a box of clips at your local fabric or hobby store for under $2 however, since this is a DIY organization I thought I'd post this for those who like to do it all themselves. Items needed: Carbon Steel Crafters wire or similar $5 3/4"W x 3"L, Elastic, White, x6 (3 for each calf). Cutting to size before or after you make the hook doesn't matter Tools: Ruler, Pencil and paper Small/Medium sized plain Needle Nose Pliers Safety Wire Twist Pliers (Best), Small/Medium sized Vise Grip Needle Nose Pliers (Better), or plain Pliers Small/Medium sized Wire cutters Pick or medium nail Sewing Machine with medium to heavy duty thread (Best), Needle and thread (Better), or glue (E6000 or Zap-A-Gap) Here's the wire... Steps: 1) Cut a 4" section of wire 2) Using your thumb and forefinger start begin to fold the wire as shown 3) Using the plain needle nose pliers continue to fold the wire until the wire gap is closed 4) Using the plain pliers grab the wire at the folded point 5) Now wrap the wire around the pliers tip 180 degrees as shown to create the hook 6) Now re-position the pliers just below the hook 7) Fold both loose wire ends to the side 45 degrees as shown 8) Draw out a ¾" or 19mm guide 9) Using plain pliers bend wire 45 degrees away from hook as shown 10) Continue to bend both wires 180 degrees until they cross over each other as shown. We will call this section the anchor. NOTE: A this point you can either cut the wire ends where they meet and solder them together and jump to step 20, or if you don't have a soldering iron, continue on. 11) Using pliers hold anchor section (NOT SHOWN) then bend the wire ends away from hook as shown 12) Now for the tricky part. Continuing to use the plain pliers grab anchor section just below the hook as shown 13) Using your other hand twist the free wire ends about 3 or 4 revolutions. It should look like this 14) Now grab the same area again with the plain pliers and hold on tight (keep this section of wires straight while we twist them tighter). Now grab the two free wires just past the twist you made in the previous step with the vise grip pliers. 15) Rotate the vise grips 1 to 2 revolutions (the same direction you began twisting the wires by hand), this will tighten the existing wire windings to prevent them from coming apart under stress. NOTE: This may take a little practice. 16) Remove the vise grips. 17) At this point straighten any bent sections to resemble the image shown 18) Using the wire cutters cut the twisted wires approximately 1/8" or 3mm from the untwisted anchor section (hook side) as shown 19) Compare your hook assembly to the images I've provided. 20) Now grab one of your elastic strips. NOTE: Black nylon is shown for illustration purposes only. 21) Fold one end of material ½" or 13mm. Make note of crease location. 22) Poke a pic or nail into the center of the crease, at the center of the material half as shown, to create a hole for the hook 23) Feed the hook portion through the hole, then pull on the hook to secure the anchor side firmly against the material. NOTE: Prior to this next step it has been suggested attaching addition material to the material as a pull tab to assist in removing the hook from the armor. This can be done simply by adding a extra 1" or so extra material by looping it like a "S" behind the hook during the gluing or sewing process. I'll add this to this thread shortly. 24) Finalizing: This next and final step/s requires you to connect the two sections of material together around the anchor portion of hook completing the assembly. There are multiple ways you can accomplish this. A) Hand sew Sewing Machine or 3) Glue. The next section I will be demonstrating the Sewing Machine method. If you choose to hand sew or glue you are done! Glue the opposite end to your armor, drill your holes for your hooks and Waa La, enjoy! 25) Sewing Machine method: Fold the two material sections around anchor point of hook assembly as shown. 26) Place area to be sewn in machine (Hook side up) as shown. 27) Depending the quality of machine you have you can either start at the edge of the material or in the middle. Sew the halves together and up the sides for added security (prevent hook from falling out when not in use). Dritz size 3 bra hook used here to illustrate hook similarities. 28) That's it, you're done! Edited September 30, 2015 by ukswrath 1 Quote
Dougal[501st] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Very cool!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Just bookmarked this bad boy! Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 DIY all you want. I'll stick with ready made. But I'll strongly advice against nylon webbing for calf enclosure using these hooks. The elastic they used was there for a reason making the original suits, IE you need the material to flex when you pull the hooks out of the holes. Also, your "finished" strap has no pull tab, so you will have a lot of trouble grabbing it to get it out with your leg stuck inside. Sorry to sound so pessimistic. You've done a nice job of bending the wire. It looks really neat. But you are re-inventing the wheel. 1 Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Thanks Mathias, noted, and thanks for your input. If it's a EIB or Centurion requirement to use the elastic then those reading this, use elastic. If it's not, then I don't have a problem using nylon because my calves give enough to detach the hook, but that's just me. The Grab Tab is a great idea I will have to look into it, personally. Edited November 6, 2014 by ukswrath Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 No there is no requirement to use elastic. It's just impractical not to. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 No there is no requirement to use elastic. It's just impractical not to. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Thank you Mathias, I understand your point. The nylon is just an option (not canon), kinda like Velcro, and who would use Velcro? This thread is for those DIYers like myself. I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel just a personal & crafty way to put it on the car. Cheers 1 Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 In thus case, re inventing the wheel us fine with me. Hand sewing the original loops rakes oso much time. Even making these bends and sewing them takes less time than hand sewing. 1 Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 It does suck. But I see it as a rite of passage. Btw, you can use a machine on them too. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hey Steve funny you mentioned the sewn in over the counter hooks. One of the final images shown is actually using one of those (it's the one that looks a bit shinier). I just took the loops you would had sewn to the material bent them to the shape similar of the hook anchors I made. Same process minus a few steps. Edited November 6, 2014 by ukswrath Quote
Raintrooper Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 The nylon is just an option (not canon), kinda like Velcro, and who would use Velcro? Great tutorial! I wish I had more of your DIY spirit, but I'm with Mathias on this one. I went 'ready-made' whenever possible. Also... this centurion's calves are closed using velcro! Hook closures aren't a requirement, even for EIB. Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Great tutorial! I wish I had more of your DIY spirit, but I'm with Mathias on this one. I went 'ready-made' whenever possible. Also... this centurion's calves are closed using velcro! Hook closures aren't a requirement, even for EIB. Well I can't say everything I've done was DIY, that would be a bunch of malarkey and I know most calf armor Centurions or others wear is Velcro, hence the sarcasm.. hehe . Since I couldn't find a sales thread on calf hardware (not that it doesn't exist), I had an opportunity to be creative and took on the challenge. Some will use this, some won't. Until there's a "canon for dummies" section created I guess threads like this will continue to crop up . In all sincerity though, I do appreciate all the constructive comments everyone has contributed. Can you imagine if we all still wore the 1st gen armor? Scary Edited November 7, 2014 by ukswrath Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Btw, you can use a machine on them too. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk HA!! Last time I tried that I broke two needles and one almost went in my eye. Quote
Toddo[TK] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 I had bra clips on my TD calves and couldn't stand it. I'm always looking for a new way to do it, so thanks for sharing this. Troopers helping troopers in action on this thread. Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 kinda like Velcro, and who would use Velcro? Me! -Eric Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Posted November 7, 2014 HA!! Last time I tried that I broke two needles and one almost went in my eye. LOL!!! Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Posted November 7, 2014 Me! -Eric I know, most do, sarcasm 1 Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 We should probably move this thread to "tutorials" Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Posted November 7, 2014 I'm easy. Whatever floats Quote
Dday[501st] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 It is a great setup... I can just see my tired fingers already! I would also suggest on top of using elastic.. that it is white. We can discuss back and forth regarding the black hiding against the black undersuit and so on, but they used white in the films, so I would go white. Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Nice work Steve, as always. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Posted November 7, 2014 It is a great setup... I can just see my tired fingers already! I would also suggest on top of using elastic.. that it is white. We can discuss back and forth regarding the black hiding against the black undersuit and so on, but they used white in the films, so I would go white. Thank you all for your input. As suggested, changes have been made to the material section and the tutorial to reflect what is canon. Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 I know that I'm one of the guys who runs this here forum... but maybe someday someone can explain to me the difference between the HOWTO and the tutorial forums. Maybe safety wire twister pliers would make things easier? (those are a little cheap but you get the idea. -Eric Quote
ukswrath[Staff] Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Posted November 7, 2014 Hey Eric, actually thought about twist pliers when writing this, love them. I guess if these style clips went viral sales or something I might invest in a set. Great tip. Quote
TrekkinTrooper[TK] Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 So I am wondering how you put these on. Do you attach the clip and slide the shin on or attach after. If after, how do you hook it with ( my fat) calf in the way ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
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