Sly11[Admin] Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Also, do all your test fitting with your compression under suit on as it will make a minor difference to the fit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 The original forearms did not have the "square indent ridge " end on both the wrist and the elbow sides so if trim that off you will be fine. As for the 35 mm ridge, if you still have excess room in your forearm, trim the ridge on the top of your arm down to the 15mm and leave the underside as it is. Quote
EJGreen Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Posted November 10, 2014 The original forearms did not have the "square indent ridge " end on both the wrist and the elbow sides so if trim that off you will be fine. As for the 35 mm ridge, if you still have excess room in your forearm, trim the ridge on the top of your arm down to the 15mm and leave the underside as it is.image.jpg As of right now, my forearms still have the square indent ridge on them. Is it a Centurian requirement to trim that off? I think I may have managed to get the outside/inside edges down to 15 mm with cover strips. Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 I'll check my RT forearms later today but Rob does leave a lot on the wrist side compared to the original suits and Centurion standards. I trimmed mine back quite a bit but not all the way as I should have. My forearms are technically too short on me and they're strapped too close to my elbow and my gloves pop out now and then when I'm dancing around. -Eric More from the LFL archives: Quote
EJGreen Posted November 15, 2014 Author Report Posted November 15, 2014 Due to an exhausting work week, I've been a bit absent from the forums. I'm back and working on my build, once again! I'm still working on the arm pieces and I'm still not sure what to do with the wrist edges on my forearms. I'm familiar with the screen accurate edges but I'm worried that if I trim them down, my forearms are going to be too short. At the same time, however, I'm not sure whether leaving them intact will jeopardize Centurian approval. I'm fitting the biceps together for measurements and I wanted to know if there should be any return edges. Same for the shoulder bells. The CRL doesn't specify return edges for these parts but I wanted to know if it's common to trim the return edges for the shoulder bells and the biceps. Quote
EJGreen Posted November 15, 2014 Author Report Posted November 15, 2014 Here's one of the forearms with the glue curing. Reinforcement strips on the inside and screen accurate 15mm cover strips on the outside with butt joint edges... Quote
trooper12 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Posted November 16, 2014 Hi Eric. I am also building an RT-Mod kit right now. I have been following your build. I saw your question above about the return edge on the wrist and if it will risk Centurion approval. I saw in a post requesting Centurion approval (link below) who received feedback on his wrist return edge that required correction. Check out the Centurion approval comments from gazmosis and you'll be able to see the return edge picture as well. http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/28177-tk-80806-requesting-anh-stunt-centurion-status-ata141/ -Rod Quote
EJGreen Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Posted November 16, 2014 Hi Eric. I am also building an RT-Mod kit right now. I have been following your build. I saw your question above about the return edge on the wrist and if it will risk Centurion approval. I saw in a post requesting Centurion approval (link below) who received feedback on his wrist return edge that required correction. Check out the Centurion approval comments from gazmosis and you'll be able to see the return edge picture as well. http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/28177-tk-80806-requesting-anh-stunt-centurion-status-ata141/ -Rod I appreciate your feedback, Rod. My dilemma doesn't so much pertain to the return edges at the wrists. As a matter of fact, I've already trimmed them off so they're nice and smooth. On the RT armor, the forearms don't have the "ladder tracks" extending all the way to the edges like so... It's much more screen accurate to shorten the forearms so the tracks end at the edges. If you look at the picture above, I'd have to trim off that pale blue area which would shorten the lengths of my forearms quite a bit which would result in a bad fit. Quote
EJGreen Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Posted November 16, 2014 Finished forearm after curing... Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted November 25, 2014 Report Posted November 25, 2014 Making good progress my friend!!! I have to shamefully admit that somehow, I had un-checked the block to receive the notifications of new posts in the threads that I follow. I have been wondering why nobody was posting to anything. Not sure how I managed that, but I clearly did. BAD ATTACHE!! BAD!!!! Apologies to you, for my (completely ignorant) absence when you needed some help. Won't happen again. LoL Quote
Dougal[501st] Posted November 25, 2014 Report Posted November 25, 2014 Making good progress my friend!!! I have to shamefully admit that somehow, I had un-checked the block to receive the notifications of new posts in the threads that I follow. I have been wondering why nobody was posting to anything. Not sure how I managed that, but I clearly did. BAD ATTACHE!! BAD!!!! Apologies to you, for my (completely ignorant) absence when you needed some help. Won't happen again. LoL Slacker.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted November 25, 2014 Report Posted November 25, 2014 By trimming that 1/2 inch off the front of your forearm, it won't affect your fit. That looks great! 1 Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I apologize for not keeping on top of my own buil thread. BAD MEMBER!! BAD!!!!Anyway, after a lot of consideration regarding the edges on my forearms, I think I'm feeling comfortable enough to trim them back to be more screen accurate. I looked at the forearms and realized the amount I would trim isn't as much as I was perceiving. When I look inside the forearm piece, there's are some pretty obvious ridges that tell me where I would cut. I actually measured them and if I were to cut the excess off BOTH edges it's only about 22 mm... Which DOES add two more questions now...1) Do I trim the edges back at the elbow end to match the wrist edges? What I find interesting is that when I stand both pieces on end, the outter piece is slightly longer then the inner piece. I was worried that if I trim the outter edge that I would have to trim the inner piece as well but I don't know if that would be the case... 2) I have one forearm already built with the cover strips (and inside strips). Am I still able to cut those edges? I'm kinda scared to dismantle it since it's already been cured for a couple of weeks now. Edited November 25, 2014 by EJGreen Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Okay, I gotta admit that I'm really excited that I made the decision to trim these edges! I measured three times, cut once and used some 220 grit paper to sand the edges nice and smooth... In case anyone is following my build, for their own suits, allow me to show a side by side comparison of what this looks like between trimming the edges and leaving them alone... With the forearm that's already built, I WAS able to squeeze my hand through the wrist--it's tight but I can get my hand in there! Now, with the edges trimmed back, I'll have a little more wiggle room for getting my mitts through the wrists. When it comes time to submit my applications for badges, the jury can't argue that there's any return edges there! Edited November 25, 2014 by EJGreen Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted November 25, 2014 Report Posted November 25, 2014 Great job, Eric. They look beautiful!! Well done, indeed. Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 So I've trimmed both the wrist and elbow edges on the forearm to be more screen accurate--the ridges now run the full length of the piece. I cut away the inner wrist edge (the same amount that I cut from the outter piece) and when I stand both pieces side by side, I see that I need to trim a bit off the inner piece at the the elbow... Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted November 25, 2014 Report Posted November 25, 2014 It is probably easier on the inner piece especially, to simply line up the elbow end, and trim the wrist a bit further. Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Here's another comparison between the forearms that have had all the edges trimmed and the piece that is still intact... Elbow edges. Wrist edges. I still have no idea how to trim the forearm that's already glued together. I really wish I had made this decision earlier Edited November 25, 2014 by EJGreen Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 I laid the trimmed piece over the pieces that are already glued together and drew lines with a pencil to see where I need to make the cuts in order for both arms to match up in length. I'm trying to think of a way to trim these edges without pulling them apart. I'm not sure if I should make an attempt to use my blade or the Lexan scissors. I'm more concerned with the cover strips... that's three layers of plastic! Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I decided to bite the bullet and trim this forearm using a "blade knife-dremel-sandpaper" combo... Here's what the finished edge looks like so far. I think a little bit of sanding, here and there, will pretty it up! All I need to do now is do the same thing for the wrist edges and this piece is pretty much done (except for adding snaps). Noob Tip: This is NOT the correct way for doing this! Don't make the mistake I made by gluing everything together before making a decision to trim things up! Originally, I couldn't make up my mind to go screen accurate with these or trudge ahead and leave them "as-is." Once I realized I could go for accuracy, I had to take a step backwards with pieces that I had already glued together. Even though I managed to achieve what I wanted to do, I would have saved a lot of time and frustration had I trimmed these pieces prior to gluing them together. Edited November 25, 2014 by EJGreen 1 Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted November 25, 2014 Report Posted November 25, 2014 Looks like you did a good job with it. I was going to suggest the Dremel for the trimming of the assembled forearm when you got to the cover strips. The "extra" time and frustration that are there right now, are going to make a huge difference in the end! 1 Quote
EJGreen Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) After trimming all the edges of the forearms for better accuracy, I tried the one that I had already glued together to see how it looks/fits... The wrist circumference is much bigger than it was originally. But as predicted, my hand can squeeze through there a lot easier than before. I hope the overall length isn't too short. Any thoughts? Edited November 25, 2014 by EJGreen Quote
EJGreen Posted November 26, 2014 Author Report Posted November 26, 2014 Here's the second forearm--trimmed, reinforcement strips & 15 mm cover strips--curing for the next couple of days! Quote
trooper12 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Posted November 26, 2014 Eric, the forearms look great. I'll be going over your posts in detail when it comes time for me to do my own. Thanks for all of the descriptions, pics and advice you've placed in your build thread! 1 Quote
EJGreen Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Posted November 27, 2014 Eric, the forearms look great. I'll be going over your posts in detail when it comes time for me to do my own. Thanks for all of the descriptions, pics and advice you've placed in your build thread! I appreciate your kind feedback, Rod. More to come soon! Quote
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