Daetrin[Admin] Posted July 20, 2014 Report Posted July 20, 2014 Reposting from Darth Munchies on the Sith Lords site - actually a great read and well reasoned. http://whatculture.com/film/star-wars-10-reasons-galactic-empire-wasnt-bad-everyone-thinks.php It's why at troops I refer to Rebels as insurgents and terrorists. Quote
aliens8us Posted July 20, 2014 Report Posted July 20, 2014 Very true. But remember our Empire was very Autocratic Dictatorship. No thanks to Emperor Palpatine and Grand Moff Tarkin. Very much in the same sense of our own Civil War. The Confederates succeeded from the Union, the US Federal government. Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 Clearly, terrorists. They destroyed a Government facility that was theoretically built using billions of tax dollars, housing up to a million military members - based on estimates - striking from "hidden bases." Good read, to be sure!! Quote
chrskmbr Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Very interesting, but I'm pretty sure the Empire Slaved Wookies. Also, whoever takes over after the Empire was destroyed is bound to become the Empire all over again. Don't know much about that though, only on book 2 of the Thrawn Trilogy. Thanks! Quote
Gizmo Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 The empire is a dictatorship and that is bad. Just ask any country under dictatorship. Quote
Gizmo Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 The empire is a dictatorship and that is bad. Just ask any country under dictatorship. Quote
aliens8us Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 So in a sense, the Separatists were the first Rebellion from the Republic. This is before the Republic became the Galactic Empire. Now mind you it was the Republic that had the plans and funding to construct the Death Star. After Emperor Palpatine 'took office'; took control. Quote
chrskmbr Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 The empire is a dictatorship and that is bad. Just ask any country under dictatorship. Quote
chrskmbr Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah, but thing get done under a dictatorship good or bad. No politics to slow down the process. Don't want to sound like Hayden Christianson there, but it works, not for me but it does. Quote
Gizmo Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Things get done under a dictatorship because people are too scared To oppose. The destruction of Alderaan was an act of terrorism in it's most truest form. To incur fear and terror throughout the galaxy and make people bow to the empires rule or else have their own planet destroyed. Politics are about individuals being heard as no single vision works for all the populous. Yes sometimes politics hold things up but history has shown that dictatorship does not work.It creates unrest and insurgence ala the Rebel Alliance.No single person or government should have that power over the many.Ideology will not flourish and society won't advance under a dictatorship. In politics all the debating leads to a balanced compromise that appeals to all and not just one. Ben Edited July 28, 2014 by Gizmo Quote
trooper96[501st] Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Was the Battle of Yavin an act of terrorism? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV7Ha3VDbzE Quote
Gizmo Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 How many planets with billions of innocent people had to be destroyed before someone says the Death Star must go. It's built as a planet destroyer. Ben Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Posted July 28, 2014 What % of the Syrian population has been killed/injured/displaced this past few years? How about Palestinians in the West Bank? How many people were murdered, etc. under Robert Mugabe in Zim? South Sudan? And what really has the rest of the world done? Not much... Total population may not be huge per se, but as a % of the people in those countries it's very high. What's 1B in an empire of trillions? An MH17 was carrying mostly Dutch, but you don't see the Dutch government doing much about it other than complaining. Alas, lives are cheap. Quote
chrskmbr Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 Ok Gizmo. Neither party gets what they want in a compromise, but it looks good to third parties. There will always be opposition, the powerful push as much as they can until it causes unrest, then pull back a bit. That's just the way humans need to be dealt with, because we are not good enough to rule ourselves, but we do our best. To think of terrorism that way would make everything seem like terrorism, going to prison for murdering somebody. People need to fear at some level to retain order. Politics need to sound like individuals being heard to work, but it doesn't work that way. The public only effects government if something bad happens. We are unfortunately a reactive government when it comes to our own public. I'm not for it, but technology advances best when a people are trying to be better than another. Whether it is in preparation for war, or just to be superior. Many countries were at their best when led by a king, emporer, or dictator. Quote
chrskmbr Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 I agree Daetrin, lives are cheap. Especially stormtroopers! Quote
Gizmo Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 Stormtroopers aren't cheap though. I've spent a good few $ on mine. Lol. Ben Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted August 9, 2014 Report Posted August 9, 2014 For the record, the Empire was not a dictatorship for most of it's existence. It wasn't until ANH that Grand Moff Tarkin declared "The imperial senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the emperor has dissolved the council permanently." So... Even though Palpatine had been in place for nearly thirty years as the Emperor, he still had and utilized the Senate until it reached a level of ineffectiveness that led him to do away with it permanently. Quote
ClockworkRonin Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 The empire is a dictatorship and that is bad. Just ask any country under dictatorship. Not true at all, look up Cinncinatus. it just depends on the dictator Quote
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