The5thHorseman[501st] Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Or you can buy them from Echo here: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/23970-fs-centurion-level-rivet-sets/ And btw, the rivets used for the ammo pack on the thigh aren't split rivets but CAP rivets with a 7mm head. Hi. I'm currently building my TK from AP. I'm trying to locate the 8mm solid-head rivets needed for the ab and kidneys (as well as securing the ammo pack on the right thigh), but I've been having no luck. Instead of starting a new thread, I thought I would comment on this one. I live in Cleveland, OH. I've looked at Lowes, Home Depot, Joann Fabrics, and Michaels. Joann Fabrics and Michaels are good source for snaps, but no rivets. Lowes and Home Depot only have the rivets that are installed with a mandril that snaps off and leave a hole in the center of the head. Can someone please steer me in the right direction to find rivets with a solid head? If you have a manufacturer and part #, that would be much appreciated. Thanks. Edit: Tim beat me on that one Edited February 12, 2015 by The5thHorseman 2 Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Or you can buy them from Echo here: Edit: Tim beat me on that one LoL... It took me a minute to see the last line, so I was really confused about whether I had posted the right link. 1 Quote
scooter65[TK] Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Thank you Tim and Germain! I appreciate the help! I will PM Echo. Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 If you have never installed split rivets before, take caution. There is a wedge tool that separates the legs for you but if you don't have one, you will need to bend them outward. I have always used a large screwdriver. I make sure to use straight downward pressure with the rivet head against a hard surface with solid downward pressure, you can then bend the tabs sideways just enough to then hammer them flat. Too much side pressure and twisting could crack your armor. 3 Quote
bigkilo[501st] Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Here is a quick question regarding placement - I have a contractor background so say in "10mm from the edge" doesn't tell me the whole picture - are the rivets placed 10mm from the edge on center ( meaning is it the center of the rivet that is 10mm from the edge)? Or is the edge of the rivet 10mm from the edge ( meaning the center of the rivet would be 14mm from the edge for a 8mm diameter rivet)? I have up to now just chosen to split this difference, but seeing as I am now helping some others build their armor, I would like to be spot-on Thank you:) 2 Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Here is a quick question regarding placement - I have a contractor background so say in "10mm from the edge" doesn't tell me the whole picture - are the rivets placed 10mm from the edge on center ( meaning is it the center of the rivet that is 10mm from the edge)? Or is the edge of the rivet 10mm from the edge ( meaning the center of the rivet would be 14mm from the edge for a 8mm diameter rivet)? I have up to now just chosen to split this difference, but seeing as I am now helping some others build their armor, I would like to be spot-on Thank you:) You can put the hole the rivet goes through at 10 mm in from the side. Quote
I'm Batman[501st] Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) I think Jared is asking whether the 10mm is to the edge of the hole, or to the centre of the hole. Jared, I couldn't find a definitive answer either when I did mine. I just eyeballed it. First off, I did a 10mm centre but it visually looked too close, so I just pushed it in a little. This shot of the RS suit shows placement. Unfortunately, no tape measure on it Edit - Hmm, pic didn't copy across. Oh well, check out the photo reference gallery Edited February 23, 2015 by Sith Lord Quote
The5thHorseman[501st] Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Edit - Hmm, pic didn't copy across. Oh well, check out the photo reference gallery One day you'll learn the ways of the Force too Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 IMHO that's too specific to matter in the slightest. I can see how that might be irritating to those inclined towards meticulous detail, but everyone needs to realize that most of our measurements are mere approximations and that no two suits are identical. 2 Quote
I'm Batman[501st] Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 One day you'll learn the ways of the Force too Haha, it's called trying to drive a new Mac. IMHO that's too specific to matter in the slightest. I can see how that might be irritating to those inclined towards meticulous detail, but everyone needs to realize that most of our measurements are mere approximations and that no two suits are identical. Exactly, hence my reply about eyeballing it. As long as it looks in proportion no one will throw you over the coals about it. 1 Quote
TK-66929[TK] Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 I'm glad I found this... I'm also glad that things, while are specific, are also not EXACTLY specific ! Grin... Yes Yes I know, but I undertand (I hope) and that is really gonna help me not freak out so much and get me to trooping sonner... Dan Quote
TK-66929[TK] Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 RE-reading this again, and I like the term "measurements are mere approximations" That makes it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier on the ulcer I think I'm getting ! Grin... Dan 1 Quote
DroidHunter Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Posted March 25, 2015 I highly recommend buying a few extra of any rivets (split or cap) that you plan to use, and try a few practice ones on spare ABS. I broke two split rivets before I got the hang of installing them. For the price, if you haven't used them before, get a few extra of each. Quote
MinionTK[TK] Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 Oh man, this is a great thread for a noob like me. Looking at going hard on building in the next couple of weeks - once my ever growing list of material is filled out - and I am definalty going to use this as a reference when it comes to the placement. This is to be used for both the kidney plate and abdomen plate correct? Quote
MinionTK[TK] Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 What about this rivet? Is there a measurement for it's location? Or does it use the 10mm rule? Quote
R4ZORBL4DE Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 What about this rivet? Is there a measurement for it's location? Or does it use the 10mm rule? I'll take it that you are talking about the TOP SNAP I just went thru the same quest to find the answer. From what I gathered ... go 10mm off of the edge of the ab plate and eyeball the distance from the top Quote
MinionTK[TK] Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 I'll take it that you are talking about the TOP SNAP I just went thru the same quest to find the answer. From what I gathered ... go 10mm off of the edge of the ab plate and eyeball the distance from the top Ya forgot to mention the top one lol. Sounds good I'll add that to my notes. Going to start a build thread soon once I am ready to start this process. Thanks for help! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Derekm88 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 I agree !! With all of you ! I just arrived to this part of my build and these posts are the most helpful , so thank you . The only difference is that I am using a regular rivet , not a blind rivet , I figure bangong in a blind will be nothing but a pain and I can always fill a regular alloy rivet , Im painting them after all . Although I do like the 10mm spacing from the edge a bit more for the AP armor , it looks a bit more spaced out .ps........ Anaheim is about 1 week away !!! Quote
Somatophylax[501st] Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 Rivet placement is giving me a headache If I'm correct, I see 6 rivets on the left side (3 ab + 3 kidney). But the right side pics usually show a single snap-like piece at the top of the ab plate. Am I right? Quote
Mutter Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 Stephane, you are correct. There are 6 rivets are on the left side (3 ab + 3 kidney). On the right, as you see in the picture above, is a male snap. This was used to close the "clamshell". Quote
Somatophylax[501st] Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 Ok. Thanks. Tomorrow, I'll pick up my "brown box" at AP's. So i'm getting nervous about assembly. Quite nervous :s Stéphane Quote
Somatophylax[501st] Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) So... that "clamshell" male snap, is that merely decoration now? You still use use snaps from the interior, right? Edited May 17, 2015 by Somatophylax Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 So... that "clamshell" male snap, is that merely decoration now? You still use use snaps from the interior, right?Yes. You use it to open and close the clam shell. The left side is, if built accurately, permanently joined together by elastics attached tot he three rivets. 1 Quote
Crusader_6[TK] Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 Yes. You use it to open and close the clam shell. The left side is, if built accurately, permanently joined together by elastics attached tot he three rivets. I'll be doing that this week! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Mutter Posted May 17, 2015 Report Posted May 17, 2015 Ok. Thanks. Tomorrow, I'll pick up my "brown box" at AP's. So i'm getting nervous about assembly. Quite nervous :s Stéphane Everyone's nervous their first time You're off to a good start by asking questions! You'll do fine! Quote
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