Hermanator Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) I had a chance to compare RS handguards, Karins white rubber, and Karins latex handguards. The RS ones are attached to gloves. The white rubber ones are slightly whiter and glossier. Both latex ones have a matte paint. Flash on with RS drop boxes for color comparison. From Left to Right: Karin's Latex, White Rubber, and RS handguards: Edited January 17, 2021 by gmrhodes13 photo updated gmrhodes13 2021 Quote
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 can you outline exactly which is where? the photos look interesting. can you give us your review between them? a set of descriptions per photo? Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Thank you for taking the time to take those pics! Much appreciated. Edited November 19, 2013 by Sonnenschein Quote
Opi Wan[TK] Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 can you outline exactly which is where? The RS ones are attached to gloves. Quote
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 on it now... sorry! Quote
Hermanator Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Posted November 19, 2013 Sorry for the short description. I was on my phone, and it was tedious enough switching between apps to post the IMG links. I'm updating the first post with a bit more description now. Quote
Turrican Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 Well and which ones are better / closer now? Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 Well and which ones are better / closer now? That depends on WHO you ask; I'd guess everybody should make their own opinon. Quote
Hermanator Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Posted November 19, 2013 I have to agree with Karin on this point, until some good original photos are released. They're both very good handguards. If you want a slimmer guard with more linear shapes, go RS. If you want a thicker one with more variation in it, Go with Karins. I think more time and thought was placed into the moulding of Karins, judging by the detail.. but perhaps RS had access to an original.. And the original nay have been more plain. I don't know for sure Sent from my LG-MS770 using Tapatalk Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 I don't want to turn this into a lenghty accuracy discussion, but I think this points should bev considered: No set of hand guards was the same in ANH. +) amount of latex poured in: more latex, thicker hand guards. +) level of the mold: thicker or thinner on one end +) mold wear: after a few pulls, the mold wears out; chunks missing, rough surface, etc +mold flash: latex is a non-wetting fluid. if you just pour it in, it produces a convexe surface, with no flash. > Thin edges (like RS above) if you wet the edges of the mold, it produces a concave surface, with flash, almost like a "return edge" see this famous pic: +) latex shrinkage: depending on humididty, temperature, etc. latex shrinks between 5 and 10% +) I'm convinced there were at least 2 different molds of standard hand gaurds (+ 1 alternative style). a) one with somewhat round front "straighter" front, pinky finger part a little wider (Gee, after 4 years, Icould major in latex hand guards) Conclusio: if you like a particular set of hand guards and the price is right for you, get it. If not, don't. Quote
Hermanator Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Posted November 19, 2013 Wow i learned a lot about latex moulds from thus, thank you Karin!! Sent from my LG-MS770 using Tapatalk Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 You're welcome! I'm always happy to share my knowledge! Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 Once again Karin demonstrates why she has an Achievement Award. I don't think anyone knows more on the subject than she does Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 19, 2013 Report Posted November 19, 2013 Thanks, Paul But I must point out, that before me Stormtrooper_guy and R2Dan made latex hand guards, and in the past 4 years I got lots of encouragement, help and input from other members here. My salutes to them! Quote
Tolo[TK] Posted November 20, 2013 Report Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) One stupid question, is there any hand guard that survived? Eric Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Edited November 20, 2013 by Tolo Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 20, 2013 Report Posted November 20, 2013 Not that I know of. Only screen shots and a few decent pics. Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 20, 2013 Report Posted November 20, 2013 And even if there was a real one, one would have to sculpt a new master sculpt because of the shrinkage of latex. Latex is durable, but degrades soon if not properly cared for. Why do you think they made new versions for ESB? Quote
Tolo[TK] Posted November 20, 2013 Report Posted November 20, 2013 And even if there was a real one, one would have to sculpt a new master sculpt because of the shrinkage of latex. Latex is durable, but degrades soon if not properly cared for. Why do you think they made new versions for ESB? To be honnest, I never thought of why they changed the model loll. But it does make alot of sense. I could figure that with time, the latex would pretty much become sand. Could the rubber ones last longer or they will end up by drying and cracking too as fast as the latex one? (Pure curiosity, I love my latex one from you) Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Quote
Sonnenschein Posted November 20, 2013 Report Posted November 20, 2013 If exposed to oxygen, fatty acids and sunlight latex degrades soon. But that doesn't happen over night. I have a set of latex guards on my balcony, unprotected, lying on my balcony for 3 years now. No significant damage so far . (Costumes on every movie production endure a lot of abuse. Do you know the pic where the suits of armor were just thrown into bins? Heart breaking!) Maybe the paint problem was another factor to make a new design. My white rubber guards are mostly silicone. The only problem with them world be a slight discoloration over time if they are exposed to sunlight, smoke, etc. Quote
Tolo[TK] Posted November 20, 2013 Report Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Do you know the pic where the suits of armor were just thrown into bins? Heart breaking! Sadly or gladly, I never saw that picture. Thanks for the answers Karin. Eric Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Edited November 20, 2013 by Tolo Quote
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