mikedwelle94[TK] Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) I understand that there is a high cost that is associated with making molds, so why would anyone bother with this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Stormtrooper-helmet-ANH/111187717468?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18219%26meid%3D1980965996980587094%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8342%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261306732979%26 It looks like the recaster did not remove the brow, and removed the metal mesh from the mic tips from the master helmet before casting. So here you have a fiberglass recast of an EFX/MRCE helmet. If you're looking to raise the brow, you'll have to grind off the fiberglass one and order a replacement... You must still add ear screws and paint the helmet. The cost is around $150 USD, which is close to the price of the real thing. That doesn't include the price of the materials required for modification and paint. He includes padding, mesh for the mic tips, and bubble lenses. These seem like attractive options, but still not worth a purchase imo. You have to supply your own decals, too (or paint them on). I never considered buying this. I'm just putting this out there so that you know to avoid it! Edited October 14, 2013 by SolidScrafty Quote
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Yeah... Wow. Quite the lazy approach. As you pointed out, the Brow and all of the S-Trim, etc were left on for the molding process. Might look nice sitting on a shelf someplace, but hardly ideal for using and trooping, I'd imagine. Quote
Scootch[TK] Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Same technique as the Fiberglass SFS lid that comes around on occasion. Quote
jkno Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 I think this should be reported and also to let eFX know about it. Quote
geordietrooper Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 if you don't like it don't buy it ps as far as i know this seller is well respected in the prop world Quote
mikedwelle94[TK] Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Posted October 15, 2013 Anyone who blatantly rips off a helmet such as this (or anything for that matter) doesn't deserve respect. He didn't even credit eFX for the master helmet used to produce his castings. Quote
geordietrooper Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 its a MR CE copy & just like don post items get cast by many people company's that are long gone out of business are considered by some in the prop community to be fair game not everybody agree's with that, but that's just the way it has been for a long time now Quote
jkno Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 its a MR CE copy & just like don post items get cast by many people company's that are long gone out of business are considered by some in the prop community to be fair game not everybody agree's with that, but that's just the way it has been for a long time now eFX is using the MR CE molds, in their Precision Cast Replica (PCR) helmets which this way are 99% identical with MR CE, so I don't think is fair game to recast it. Quote
Trooperman Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) its a MR CE copy & just like don post items get cast by many people company's that are long gone out of business are considered by some in the prop community to be fair game not everybody agree's with that, but that's just the way it has been for a long time now Have to agree with geordietrooper, not everyones cup of tea but thats the way things are. Edited October 16, 2013 by Trooperman Quote
jkno Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 Not sure if you guys understand that the license for MR CE/eFX PCR is now in eFX Collectibles hands. So it is not like no one has it, like Icons for example. You are agreeing to recast product from an existing company, which besides the fact that is illegal, it is also immoral. http://www.efxcollectibles.com/c-11-istar-warsi.aspx They are still for sale from eFX etailers: http://www.amazon.com/EFX-Star-Stormtrooper-Helmet-Replica/dp/B005J35PG2 http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=EFX10021&mode=retail http://www.plasmainfusion.com/efx_anh_stormtrooper_helmet.htm http://www.space-figuren.de/All-Manufacturers/eFX-Collectibles/Star-Wars/1-1-Stormtrooper-Helmet-Life-Size-Replica-Star-Wars-ANH::6590.html http://www.toy-palace.com/product_info.php?info=p7660_SW-A-New-Hope-Stormtrooper-Helmet-1-1-Replica.html Quote
geordietrooper Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 You are agreeing to recast product from an existing company where in my post does it say that exactly ? that's right nowhere Quote
jkno Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 It is not about you, that is why I didn't quote your post above. But if you brought it up, you also said "if you don't like it don't buy it", I guess this shows how you are totally against recasting it, doens't it? So a "well respected member in the prop world" who casts a helmet from an existing company should remain a respected member? And you also said "company's that are long gone out of business are considered by some in the prop community to be fair game " - eFX is not out of business and they own the rights for the MR CE Stormtrooper helmet, which now they sell as eFX PCR. In the end I think that people should not be encouraged in ANY way to recast, especially if talking about licensed companies who are still alive. Quote
geordietrooper Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 I guess this shows how you are totally against recasting it, doens't it? you don't even know me, so keep your not so stealthy accusations to yourself thanks & i said as far as i know this seller is well respected in the prop world i think some people need to climb down off that high horse giddy up Quote
jkno Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 I don't think I want to know you, nor I implied I would like to Ciao Quote
geordietrooper Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 lol the feelings mutual have a nice day Quote
carbonitekid Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 its a MR CE copy & just like don post items get cast by many people company's that are long gone out of business are considered by some in the prop community to be fair game not everybody agree's with that, but that's just the way it has been for a long time now .And if ever there was a supporter of such an attitude.... Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted October 20, 2013 Report Posted October 20, 2013 Not sure if you guys understand that the license for MR CE/eFX PCR is now in eFX Collectibles hands. So it is not like no one has it, like Icons for example. You are agreeing to recast product from an existing company, which besides the fact that is illegal, it is also immoral. http://www.efxcollectibles.com/c-11-istar-warsi.aspx They are still for sale from eFX etailers: http://www.amazon.com/EFX-Star-Stormtrooper-Helmet-Replica/dp/B005J35PG2 http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=EFX10021&mode=retail http://www.plasmainfusion.com/efx_anh_stormtrooper_helmet.htm http://www.space-figuren.de/All-Manufacturers/eFX-Collectibles/Star-Wars/1-1-Stormtrooper-Helmet-Life-Size-Replica-Star-Wars-ANH::6590.html http://www.toy-palace.com/product_info.php?info=p7660_SW-A-New-Hope-Stormtrooper-Helmet-1-1-Replica.html This is worth noting. Yes, when something is out of production we usually consider it fair game for recasting, however with it being available again...you bring up some valid points. However given how much you have to mod it to make it 501st acceptable, it would seem that for a little more money one can get a much better helmet, so why recast? Quote
jkno Posted October 20, 2013 Report Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) The problem I see is because eFX took over MR and they are making these helmets again. So in fact that seller is infringing eFX copyright. I think not many mind if someone would recast an Icons saber for example, since Icons is long gone, but this is not the case. People like these give bad name to good prop makers, and this is how companies like Lucasfilm, Disney etc. might arrive to see the honest armor makers too, and one day decide to take measures against everyone, guilty or not. Edit: spelling Edited October 20, 2013 by jkno Quote
mikedwelle94[TK] Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Posted October 20, 2013 I have to agree with Sergiu here. And why recast something that isn't even in the top tier of accuracy? eFX isn't exactly kingpin when it comes to accurate helmets. If you must recast (and by "must", I mean like your life depends on it) then why not CAP? From what I understand, that's fair game. Quote
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