ABS80 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Here are the facts of the FX armor origins. Back in 1997 D aka "Wookie Cantina" a online SW collectible store now known as FX actually recasted GF(Gerardo Follano) who was the original creator of what is commonly known as FX armor, D was buying armors from GF and reselling at good profit, unfortunately like most recasters D became very greedy and recasted GF's kit and had them mass produced in Mexico for dirt darn cheap, he sold thousands worldwide, basically GF never got credit for it, D denying he had recasted GFs work but was caught first hand, GF being from CANADA used a canadian dime to make the round center button details on the belt which appeared on all the FX suit recasts D sold, you could clearly see Queens Elizabeth face and dime detail from inside the belt part, so the fact is that Gerardo Follano was the original creator of the FX style armor which is known worldwide and worn by thousands of troopers, and between all this FX scam is when TE (trooper experts) came in contact with GF, they struck a deal and gave GF full authorization to produce ANH style armor from TE molds and history was made, IMHO GF, TE , GINO are the pioneers of the fan made suits and the main reason of the accurate armors we have available today. This thread should be a stick which is part of fan made trooper history. http://www.starwarshelmets.com/imperialfanGF.htm Mark (AP) Edited April 22, 2013 by Locitus Removed name per request. 1 Quote
troopermaster Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 I think the original creator was Marco. I don't think GF actually sculpted the FX since it is far too close to Marco's original. http://www.starwarshelmets.com/imperialfanMarco.htm Quote
ABS80 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Marco is very different, the helmet is totally different compared to FX, FX was 100% recast from GF. The point of this thread is proof that FX recasted GF's work regardless,. Mark Edited April 15, 2013 by ABS80 Quote
troopermaster Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 I have to disagree. Marco and FX are very similar. I will agree that FX is a recast of GF but GF is a recast of Marco (albeit changed slightly). Quote
Turrican Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Well , all named versions of the FX are very ugly..lol. Gino only copied TE , nothing more. Edited April 15, 2013 by Turrican Quote
ABS80 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) I have to disagree. Marco and FX are very similar. I will agree that FX is a recast of GF but GF is a recast of Marco (albeit changed slightly). changed slightly!!! don't knwo but helmet looks way different to me, also Marco legs are very tubular looking and a robot like chest. Mark Edited April 16, 2013 by ABS80 Quote
gazmosis[501st] Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Didn't I hear that the new FX (NE "No Excuses") armor is recasted RS Props?? http://forum.mepd.ne...?showtopic=5766 Edited April 16, 2013 by gazmosis Quote
Tolo[TK] Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 Here is the FX on the left and GF on the right. (I took this pictures on StarWarsHelmet.com. I do not own this picture.) Image not recoverable Quote
ABS80 Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Posted April 25, 2013 GF made and sculpted the FX style armor before getting into movie accurate ANH style armor, so those photos are irrelevent. Mark Quote
troopermaster Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 And here is the Marco next to the GF1 (FX) and GF2. See any similarities? Images not recoverable Quote
SW1 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 Well Paul apart from the UKG logo , ummmm, NO Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote
Locitus[Admin] Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 Which makes it so funny to me how the FX is still eligible for 501st approval whilst the Marco isn't. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote
rhapsodyred99[TK] Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Which makes it so funny to me how the FX is still eligible for 501st approval whilst the Marco isn't. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Don't mind the FX armor so much, but that helmet is godaweful. Makes me cringe when I see troop photos of Good lids then BAM there is an FX lid photobombing in the background. I know there are some people that simply wont give up the ol FX bucket, but man that thing looks worse all the time. Edit: I can see why this would be of interest, as we should all care where the hobby started and how it evolved. Edited April 25, 2013 by rhapsodyred99 Quote
Evilboy[501st] Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 Didn't I hear that the new FX (NE "No Excuses") armor is recasted RS Props?? http://forum.mepd.ne...?showtopic=5766 No. NE is very accurate and as such will get comparisons, but it is larger in overall scale and could not have been recast. If it was recast then why did the go with the three piece helmet again? The length and size of the legs and arms, chest and back make it clear. I have observed them side by side and it is in no way a recast. Quote
troopermaster Posted April 25, 2013 Report Posted April 25, 2013 I don't you have any idea what you are saying. It's blatently obvious that the majority of the NE armour is recast from RS. Just because they made changes to the helmet cap so they can form it on a shallow machine doesn't mean it's not recast. If you cannot see the similarity then there is no hope for you. I cannot wait for someone to do a comparison between the NE and RS and you will eat your words! Quote
Deadpool[TK] Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 . I cannot wait for someone to do a comparison between the NE and RS and you will eat your words! I would like to see the comparison myself. As a new guy waiting on an order from ATA, I read a lot of build threads trying to get as much info as possible to "get it right". I have stood next to AP,ATA and FX kits and seen the difference right away. Have not seen the NE kit up close yet but am following the NE build threads here with interest. Once a full kit of NE is done will there be a comparison? Quote
rhapsodyred99[TK] Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 Well EvilBoy and I are in the same garrison, but he is waaay up north while I am waaaay down south, so it is possible at some point we will be side by side. Of course my RS is a sandy which may obscure details. I am happy that we are going more and more towards accuracy, and away from the FX as time goes on. I can not say one way on the other on the NE origins. I have not seen one close up, and I do not have the level of experience Troopermaster does when it comes to these things as I have never molded/sculpted/pulled anything like that in my life. I am sure one day an NE will be compared next to an RS, it may not be Mine and Jonathan's but someone somewhere will do it never fear. Quote
troopermaster Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 I hope you manage to do the comparison, especially with the guy who thinks the NE is not recast from RS. It would be awesome if you could do a side by side comparison of the arms and torso, those are the main parts cast that will prove they are too close to be sculpted. Of course the helmet comparison would be nice too but the cap with throw people off. The nail in the coffin for me is the left forearm that RS sculpted is magically the same as the NE. All the main torso parts are exactly the same as an RS so taking photos of them side by side is going to be like looking at two RS kits. Quote
firebladejedi[TK] Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 I wonder whom will be recasting who in 2020? Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted April 26, 2013 Report Posted April 26, 2013 I'm still looking for a comparison of the NE helmet size and something with screen lineage. Whoever is taking photos of NE stuff for comparison please make sure you take detailed photos of the helmet next to an ATA, TE2, or RS etc.... Thanks! -Eric Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 Well, the first post is pretty accurate to say the least. This has been common knowledge for anyone that's been in the Legion a long time. Well, I joined in 2005 and was made aware of this about what - 2006? Several people have thought about making an armor genealogy tree but so far I don't think anyone has completed it. Quote
Deadpool[TK] Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 Several people have thought about making an armor genealogy tree but so far I don't think anyone has completed it. That would be one messed up looking tree lol Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 That would be one messed up looking tree lol Like something from the set of Tim Burton movie -Eric Quote
DizzyStormtrooper[501st] Posted April 27, 2013 Report Posted April 27, 2013 Edited - sorry people have kids who read the forums. The language was inappropriate. Quote
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