Pepakura HALO Mk VI armor build

[DizzyStormtrooper[501st]]

heres that link i mentioned. every halo file known to man. its a little hard to navigate but youll get the hang of it.

 

http://www.4shared.com/folder/CCB_6QwQ/405th_Pepakura_Database.html

[boomshakra[TK]]

heres that link i mentioned. every halo file known to man. its a little hard to navigate but youll get the hang of it.

 

http://www.4shared.c...a_Database.html

 

Thanks for the link! I have read through a couple of the sizing tutorals and think I have a handle on it. When I did my v1.0 I inadvertently used the scaling number for an ODST helmet for the Mk VI and think that had a lot to do with the oversized result For v2.0 I went a little (heh...little) too conservative. I have v3.0 printed out but not started - finishing up the cutting on my left boot currently (right one is glued up) - and will start on that next.

 

What I really dread is getting the chest size wrong...that would be a pain to have to start over/resize...so I will probably go with a LD file/tester to get it dialed in before going HD, although I have seen some LD work that was modified and looks pretty close to HD with the end result. I am feeling a bit better with each piece I work on - the left boot turned out better than the handplates, and it actually fit over the boots I am going to use! I'm also getting a bit more comfortable cutting free-hand - for the longer straight lines I still use a ruler, but it is a bit cumbersome to constantly be moving a 18" metal ruler around for the small detailed cuts...

 

Here's the right boot: (Edit - can't access photobucket from work so here are the links - will change them to images when i get home)

 

 

 

 

I am a bit concerned about the 'lean' of the back part - will probably have to shore it up with some popsicle sticks before I resin it:

 

 

Thanks for checking it out - more to come!

Edited January 17, 2013 by boomshakra

[SubSkip[TK]]

"I am a bit concerned about the 'lean' of the back part - will probably have to shore it up with some popsicle sticks before I resin it:"

 

Nobody pays attention to your feet. They'll all be staring at your bucket.

 

Looking good!

[boomshakra[TK]]

"I am a bit concerned about the 'lean' of the back part - will probably have to shore it up with some popsicle sticks before I resin it:"

 

Nobody pays attention to your feet. They'll all be staring at your bucket.

 

Looking good!

 

Actually I'm more concerned with it digging (after glassing/hardening it) into my ankle when I'm walking around

[DizzyStormtrooper[501st]]

Essentially after bondo the peices are casted into smoothcast or something more durable and wearable than the glass, and also light weight, i'm on the rpf too though I never cast my peps cuz that stuff is expensive. on the edges and insides I sand down with a disc on the drill and coat with some felt or thin foam so there's no digging or scratching on the return edges.

 

For scaling generally the chest, cod, back and butt are the same width, lay down or put paper on a wall, mark points on the sides of your rib cage at the widest point which is around your underarms, then your waist. measure the distance and add an inch or 2, then convert to mm and put as the width in change scale.

[boomshakra[TK]]

quick update - no pix to post. The boots are pretty much glassed - started out laying down resin but the fiberglass cloth kept coming up when I put another layer on top (common occurence). So, I decided to lay down rondo first. That worked a little better, I bought the small can of bondo & burned through it pretty quick. I need to go back and put more over the top - probably overkill, but since the boots will see a bit more stress than most of the armor it makes sense to me. More practice getting the bondo/resin ratio correct & how much hardener to use. I read on the 405th boards that you can just use the liquid resin hardner instead of a combination of that & the cream hardener that comes with bondo, so i'll give that a go & see how it works. I also got the inside of v2.0 helmet mostly glassed/rondo'd. Since it is more or less structurally sound I removed the supports inside of it and can access the nooks & crannies a bit better to finish it up. I started sanding the bondo monster that is the v1.0 helmet, but the mouse sander I bought included 120 grit sand paper - i'll need 60-80 to remove the layers I slopped on there.

 

V3.0 helmet is still being cut...probably will be assembled & ready for resin by early next week (I hope). The weather is becoming a factor again - foggy this morning, so hopefully it will dry out by this afternoon so I can finish up the boots (humidity is not resin's friend...).

 

I played with the pepakura file for the chest this morning and decided to make it & the cod pieces the last things I build. The more practice I get with pepakura, the better. Once v3.0 helmet is glued up I'll start cutting on either the forearms, thigh, or shin pieces. Those don't have quite as many detailed parts so they should come together pretty quickly.

[DizzyStormtrooper[501st]]

Yeah definitely do the harder/more detailed stuff first. That way you learn faster and the bigger pieces are easier. When I did my pep stormtrooper I did the ab and cod first, then arms, so the chest and legs were a breeze.

 

I think you are applying too much bondo at once, id suggest thin layers like an onion, it cuts down on effort and the bondo dust getting everywhere

[boomshakra[TK]]

I finished cutting v3.0 and applied a thin layer of resin - and the 70% humidity has brought any further progress to a halt. You are correct on my over-usage of bondo on v1.0 - after sanding it with some 60 grit and trying to clean it up with a dremel...it will probably not be wearable with out an extensive overhaul . I'm going to follow your suggestion of light coats where needed - other than that I'll mostly be covering seams where the pepakura meets and just smooth along them. V2.0 is ready for bondo...just need the humidity to come down under 50%!

 

Here's the line-up:

 

 

 

and totally unrelated to the build is the addition of "Mini-Me" to my Master Chief figure

 

 

More to come!

 

I have started cutting the forearms and got the outer visor cut as well:

 

 

Here's both inner & outer visors held together - the inner visor looks purple at this angle & in this light...definitely NOT gold I am thinking about getting some one-way mirror tint (gold) and using for my visors...or will just get the HJC models suggested by other peeps in the 405th:

 

[SubSkip[TK]]

Maybe this guy will sell you the lens part for cheap. =)

 

http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/22903-halo-helmet-what-you-think/

[DizzyStormtrooper[501st]]

HJC is the way to go. Tint is impossible to get into a spherical shape. Vinyl stretches when its heated up, but tint shrinks! some have used liquid tint, kind of like a dye you dip the clear visor into, with some luck but its tricky to use. When I did my MC helmet I did it black with removable static cling window tint from Walmart

[boomshakra[TK]]

Maybe this guy will sell you the lens part for cheap. =)

 

http://www.whitearmo...what-you-think/

 

Ken down in SA also found one of those - but since the helmet itself is sized pretty small, I do not think the visor would swap over very well...

 

 

HJC is the way to go. Tint is impossible to get into a spherical shape. Vinyl stretches when its heated up, but tint shrinks! some have used liquid tint, kind of like a dye you dip the clear visor into, with some luck but its tricky to use. When I did my MC helmet I did it black with removable static cling window tint from Walmart

 

Yeah, I had already considered putting tint over a curved surface & the difficulty of doing it right - just getting the paper template on the visor for the outer one I cut was a bit of a challenge. I'll keep this one for transferring the cut lines over to the HJC when the time comes. This one will go in the v2.0 helmet when it is ready - the kiddos already have dibs on it when it is finished . I'll probably pick up a can of the spray tint to experiment with regardless.

 

Annnnnd another mis-sizing on my part - started gluing parts of the forearms together last night and they are too small - we're talking TK slim...and Spartan armor is supposed to be made to fit the genetically modified wearers (which I am not, but you get what I mean...). While they probably would fit over my forearms, there would be no room for padding and they are a little short - and would look disproportionate on the rest of the armor. Re-sized and printed new ones...chalking it up to experience with the benefit of more cutting/gluing practice

 

On the brighter side, the humidity is dropping so I can get some resin/bondo work done!

Edited January 30, 2013 by boomshakra

[boomshakra[TK]]

It has been awhile since my last update, but I'm still working on the armor

 

The good news is my v3.0 helmet fits!

 

 

I was very, very relieved that I was able to get it over my head - had to trim the inside a bit, but not where you will be able to see it. The weather turned bad, so I spent some time doing clean-up with the dremel on the helmet and also the boots. The boots will need a little work - a few air pockets that will need to be filled with bondo, but the weather has to cooperate for that to happen.

 

Another (hopeful) good thing is that I am pretty sure the v2.0 forearms are correctly sized - I had the opportunity to get one coat of resin on the left one before the humidity went over 50% (it is cold & drizzling outside). Once I get some fiberglass in I can trim the wrist area to get my hand through - it was pretty close but tearing the paper when I got it all glued up last night. The right forearm is glued & waiting for resin.

 

Earlier this week I was pretty down on this project - it seemed overwhelming...but I sat down & started cutting out the forearm pieces and started feeling better about it again. Getting the helmet over my head was a huge motivator to keep on working towards the finished armor. There is still a lot of work to be done and I'm sure I will hit some lows along the way, but it's all good for now

[boomshakra[TK]]

The good news: v2.0 forearms fit!

 

 

The bad news: v1.0 shins are too big! And by too big, I mean it could be an umbrella stand...

 

 

So, back to the 'cutting board' for the shins, which I have already started. Beautiful weather today, so I spent some time getting bondo on the helmet. This is actually a step that I have been dreading, worried that I would totally botch the job trying to make it symmetrical, but it is actually going better than I thought, though there is still a lot to be done:

 

 

 

 

When I resined the helmet it created a few low spots from warping that I am having to correct. The most noticable is the underside of the visor, but that is not as bad to fix as I thought. What is challenging (aside from the symmetry) is getting the 'hard' and 'soft' lines correct, as they add detail and shape to the helmet. That said, I am excited about what I have been able to do so far and looking forward to getting it all cleaned up & ready for paint.

 

Now my dread is getting the boots up to speed... they also warped on the "lace" section and that is going to be challenging to correct, especially on the sides. If all else fails, I'll print out a new set & start over - I'm used to doing that by now

[DizzyStormtrooper[501st]]

Take a heat gun or hair dryer to the warped spots, looking good so far glad you're making progress

[boomshakra[TK]]

Sorry for the lack of updates - but I have been busy working on the armor! Here's some new progress pictures:

 

I managed to get the shin the correct size (as far as I can tell) It is over to the right, next to the forearms that are in the process of being bondo'd & sanded...got a little to happy with the former and am doing a lot of the latter now...

 

 

I am really happy with my progress on the helmet - still a lot of work to be done, but it has gone from the picture above (in early bondo) to the point that I put on the first coat of primer, which will help me further identify where more bondo/spot putty/sanding needs to take place:

 

 

 

"What's that smell?" "Dunno, smells like primer"

 

 

But, as much as I have moved forward, I have to take two steps back:

 

 

Sizing FAIL (again) on the boots...forgot to take the indent of the toe section into consideration when measuring But, I wasn't happy with them anyways and will reinforce the areas that warped during resin before doing it again. The only thing I am bummed about is the waste of materials (bondo, resin, fiberglass...and TIME) put into them. Live & learn!

 

I have one shin partially resined/fiberglassed & am still cutting the 2nd one out, so it will probably be awhile before I have anything exciting to post, unless I made significant progress on the helmet. Now that the primer is on I'll be able to work a bit more efficiently with corrections

[DizzyStormtrooper[501st]]

Just get a heat gun and reshape wherever it warps. My heat gun has been my best friend with pep and abs

[boomshakra[TK]]

I wish I had more to report this time around but I haven't been able to dedicate a significant amount of time to make much "real" progress. Shins & forearms are in bondo and I am still cleaning up the helmet - the coat of primer I put on it a few weeks ago is all but totally sanded off from corrections, put a new coat on today and...still a lot of little stuff to be done (smoothed, refined, and defined). Somehow the humidity shot up over 60% today (after a dry week), so bondo is out for the time being. I rediscovered how handy a mouse sander can be on larger pieces that don't have much detail - namely the shins and forearms . I managed to smooth out some deep grooves that the spot putty wasn't sticking to on the forearms.

 

The new set of boots I have been pep-ing are not going very quickly - still cutting on the left boot, right is a stack of paper . I glued together the toe cap and it is...big. I'll have to glue the other two pieces and put them on the boot to see if 'sizing fail' has struck again. If so, I might take dizzytroopers advice and bust out the heat gun on the v1.0 pair so I can move forward towards completing the build...I can always make another pair of boots sized 'in-between' the two sets I have already created (or started on).

 

so, this project isn't dead, just moving very slowly (unlike my mando build, which is stalled and may be scrapped in favor of a Deathwatch Mando build ).

 

I just noticed, this is my 400th post - yay me!

Edited March 16, 2013 by boomshakra

[boomshakra[TK]]

I obviously haven't gotten a whole lot done on this, but am plugging away despite the lack of updates.  Mis-sized the left thigh...twice.  The third attempt I used the LD file and cranked it out in about an hour...briefly considered just doing LD for the thighs but the file i used does not have the braces/supports necessary to hold everything in shape for the resin to stiffen it up.  Yes, I could fabricate my own, but decided to just go forward with HD files.  I still have a chance to pull it all together in time for RTX in a month - but, if I want to reach that goal I will definitely have to go with a LD file for the chest...180 pieces is too much, plus the bondo/sanding of all the detail would take me a month in and of itself.

 

So - repainted the M6:

 

 

Still need to weather it...way on the back burner for now.  You might also notice my Master Chief figure collection is growing...with Cortana keeping an eye on the Spartans

 

Speaking of weapons, I did a little bit of work towards converting a Nerf gun to a MA5...need some craft foam for the upper/lower area around the barrel.  Again, low priority:

 

 

I did the biceps with a LD file.  Pictures here aren't that great, since it is raw paper and it is sagging while I hold it in place.  It has been rondo'd since (both l/r) and both received about 2/3 coverage with bondo tonight.  Since it is a LD file the bicep itself will take some shaping to round it in front.  The shoulder side will keep its polygonal (dunno if that is a word...) shape:

 

 

 

And I finally sourced a visor with gold tint!:

 

 

It is a welding visor with the tint slapped on it.  Paid too much for it, but at least I have SOMETHING for now...I haven't had time to check around the local auto tint shops to see if they have any scrap, but I am not sure if that style is legal here in TX for auto use.  I will probably end up using motorcycle visors for the final product.

 

That is where it all stands - the boots also got some bondo on them and the theme of the weekend is SANDING, unless I get around to it one evening this week.  I am at the point on the helmet that I have taken it just about as far as I can for my first effort.  It needs the 'detail' pieces, but I have a plan for those.  Will also try to have that finalized so the 'final' coat of primer can go on and painting can begin in earnest!

 

And in other news, the members of my Squad who are dabbling in Halo armor are planning to build armor so we can form Noble team...I will be Jorge, and we're all going to be using foam to build our armor.  The due date for that project is All-Con 2014.  If nothing else, my Spartan WILL be done by then!

[boomshakra[TK]]

State of the Build:

 

Lots of bondo & primer...

 

 

But things are looking bright!

 

 

 

And somehow this...

 

 

 

became this

 

 

 

 

 

Future Spartan?  Time will tell...

 

 

 

While all the pieces are somewhat assembled...there is still SO much to do.  With the much needed rain of the past few days comes 67% humidity...so I can't start putting resin on the chest.  I did glue in some sturdier card stock in some places to keep the warping down.  I really need to get out and do more sanding on just about everything.  Yesterday I spent a couple of hours cutting and shaping the outer visor...but it isn't going to work because you can read the imprinted mfr logo from the mold (using a 3M safety visor), so I will need to get over to the welding supply this week to get a clear visor from them & start over.  In happy news, I ordered a MA5B assault rifle and it should be here next week

 

More to come - stay tuned!

[boomshakra[TK]]

Every day is an armor party when you're working with pepakura/resin/bondo:

 

 

 

 

Adding some depth to the cod & biceps/shoulders...will continue the process with the thighs, forearms & shins:

 

 

 

 

 

And I also keep getting distracted by side projects:

 

 

 

(I have a ~34" inseam, my leg is there to show the size of the blades )

 

And the next Spartan build (Jorge from Halo: Reach) has already started (will do the armor in foam this time...)

 

 

And then there is this...which I REALLY need to get cracking on:

 

 

The MA5 will have a countdown ammo counter and some LEDs on the side and I will also be adding sound to it - that part will be a little tricky, but I have the sound board and files loaded on it.  It came with a pre-wired speaker, but it is kind of small...and distorts when the volume is up.  The board does have a line out, so I will be shopping for a smaller amp that I might install to give it some oomph when 'firing' - definitely something smaller than an Aker...

 

And last, but not least - FINALLY got the paint on the helmet!

 

 

Sorry for the low-quality phone-camera quality - and I am holding the visor in place (it has velcro in it now, as I may not use this visor...still working on/sourcing another):

 

 

 

As always, more to come - stay tuned!

[boomshakra[TK]]

It has been an on-again, off-again project, but I am SO close to completion!  A couple of things have gone wrong: when drilling a hole in one of the calves for a rivet, the drill bit snagged, ripping the piece from my hands and tearing a big hole in the calf...oops.  I kind of fiberglassed/bondo'd the piece back together, but decided to just go ahead and make new shins.  The file I built the original ones from wasn't as detailed as I wanted, and I found one that is a lot better looking.

 

Problem #2: I made a critical mistake of not trying on the shoulder pieces when I had the chest piece assembled but not yet fiberglassed.  I got all the way through sanding/painting/detailing and started to put it all together...and the chest was too big.  Huge bummer.  I couldn't lift my arms more than about a 45* angle from my sides and they appeared disproportionate.  So, after much whining and gnashing of teeth...v2.0 chest was started

 

 

I was armoring up for a photo shoot, but just went to help as a handler instead.  My 501st Squad is also working on a separate Halo squad, mostly ODST.  I am the lone Spartan so far...probably because building your own (as I know from experience) is time consuming and takes a lot of patience, and commissioned armor can be cost-prohibitive.  Here's some of the pics:

 

 

 

 

The armor pictured is made by Sean Bradley, and I have my own set on order from him.  Already have the bucket, though:

 

 

Can't have too much armor, I always say!  As a side note, once these projects are complete it will be back to 501st builds: TIE reserve and then Pilot

 

In other happy news, I got the MA5 build and electronics installed:

 

 

The counter counts down (duh...) and there is a reset in the magazine well.  The magazine I have is solid resin, and I'm working on a way to keep it in place that will allow it to be removed but also not drop it out when trooping.  I will probably build a foam replica for trooping so that I don't have to worry too much about it

 

So, while frustrated that I was having to build another chest piece, I decided to make do with the one already built for another photo shoot.  Keep in mind, I have no (completed) shins or boots (which are another source of frustration...won't go into that).  Fortunately, the photographer was able to accomodate that for the pictures (photo credits Michael Paolini):

 

 

 

The photo shoots are a lead-up to a fan film we'll be shooting next month.  I think that ya'll will like the story line & I'll post a link once we have it "in the can"

 

Stay tuned!

Edited February 22, 2014 by boomshakra

[mikedwelle94[TK]]

This is really cool. You did a great job with this!

Eager to see it finished.

[boomshakra[TK]]

Long time, no update, but the armor is more or less "complete" - including new chest piece.  So, time for random picture updates from 2014

 

RTX 2014:

 

 

 

 

Classic Gaming Fest, Austin, TX:

 

 

Alamo City Comic Con, San Antonio, TX

 

 

Master Chief Collection Launch, San Antonio, TX

 

 

And a few ODST for good measure, as it is done as well

 

RTX 2014:

 

 

 

[Sly11[Admin]]

Great costume.

 

 

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[JohnnyChaos]

great stuff. looks very cool

I really need to have a go with pep.