dashrazor Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 i never noticed the TKC style ear rank markings before Great work Corey!! Quote
TK5492[TK] Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 To me, this looks more like a: Ā ROTJ armor ANH Style helmet and hand pieces Ā Looks more to me like a frankentrooper than a newer Phase of the clone armor. The only thing that really stands out is the ear markings as mentioned above. Ā Interesting too that the ROTJ style was used since the games (without the expansion levels) take place before ANH. Ā Correct me if I am wrong??? Quote
Star Raider[TK] Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Posted February 18, 2012 There are many very small differences in this armor compared to the originals. But we also have to remember, the developers are probably not 100% accurate Stormtrooper experts. There more concerned about getting the game done on time so there not sued every day there late. Ā That point though has also been very interesting ... about the ROTJ before ANH. Quote
TK5492[TK] Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Your point is well seen about the designers. Ā The way the game ends though, they are probably given their Imperial information by Bothans. Ā We should've known... 1 Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted February 19, 2012 Report Posted February 19, 2012 You're the man Corey. Ā I just noticed that the bottom corner of either end of the ammo belt looks sorta roundedish... or at a weird angle. Corey's INC and TKC screenshots show something similar. I've never noticed that before. Ā If you have a second can you grab a closeup of one of the ends of the PIII trooper belt? Ā Is it coincidence that all the scuff marks sorta look like paint chipping off of HIPS? Ā Aloha, Ā -Eric Quote
Darth Aloha[Admin] Posted February 19, 2012 Report Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks Corey... that angle cut is totally a centurionable detail Quote
Nassik Posted May 12, 2012 Report Posted May 12, 2012 An absolutely fascinating hybrid. Very cool. Quote
dashrazor Posted May 12, 2012 Report Posted May 12, 2012 Shawn, you just need the helmet and a few small parts to give this one a go this costume is not yet legion approved, who will be the first? Quote
bluehickey Posted May 12, 2012 Report Posted May 12, 2012 But it's so close to a regular ROTJ Tk that it seems pointless IMO. Some game artist slacks off at work and forgets to remove one detail on the ears and we feel the need to create an entire new category of trooper for it? Seems ridiculous to me. Quote
dashrazor Posted May 12, 2012 Report Posted May 12, 2012 the same concept was done recently with the clone costumes. there is a distinct difference between movie and animated versions. the same is true here, there is major differences. and whether it is a prop maker or a game artist that made it is irrelevant. it is what it is Ā it is not ROTJ or ANH, it is a completely unique hybrid. Ā ANH style helmet with unique rank markings Ā ROTJ style armor with ANH like side rivet placement and 5 ab button side detail Ā ANH style belt (plastic front) and ANH hand plates Ā ROTJ style belt with unique rivet placement Ā lastly it is EU canon and shares the same unique armor style of the other TX and TK EU variants already approved. 1 Quote
R2Dan[TK] Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Seeing only animated style armour is now allowed for Clone Wars clones, and this looking NOTHING like ANH or ROTJ (to me), wouldn't it be wise to make this an entire new costume. Ā Everything would have to be very edgy. The helmet needs to be really flat. The detonator would have to be heptagonal in shape. Everything would have to be painted and chipped to show khaki (at least the buttplate), etc. Ā And yes, I'm being serious here. Just saying "oh it looks sort of like X" and then go with it, well, that's like the FX days all over again. Edited May 14, 2012 by R2Dan Quote
Star Raider[TK] Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 I'm going to apply with my Garrison official sometimes this week to get me re-approved as a Phase III Trooper!! (Hopefully, being the first!) Quote
Sonnenschein Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 I know my opinion doesn't count much, but I have to agree with Dan.Everythi g has tobe edgy. Ā This could be an easy pepacura project with all the edges. Quote
Star Raider[TK] Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 Seeing only animated style armour is now allowed for Clone Wars clones, and this looking NOTHING like ANH or ROTJ (to me), wouldn't it be wise to make this an entire new costume. Ā Everything would have to be very edgy. The helmet needs to be really flat. The detonator would have to be heptagonal in shape. Everything would have to be painted and chipped to show khaki (at least the buttplate), etc. Ā And yes, I'm being serious here. Just saying "oh it looks sort of like X" and then go with it, well, that's like the FX days all over again. Ā Its not about making the trooper look like the game trooper in the sense that its animated, its about using the parts of the armour that make up the costume. IE. The hand plates, trim around armour, style of helmet. Ā Your comment Sonnenschein also indicates that the Incinerator Trooper and Stormtrooper Commander should also be a peacura? Seeing that both of those models as well came from the same game, are the exact same model and the only difference is the paint applied to the costume. Ā I don't see any reason why this variation, like the TKC or Incinerator should not be used? There are 1000 different clones, its just a matter of making the one I want to wear. Ā and P.S, Sonnenschein, Your opinion matters just as much as everyone else... Your no less special then anyone Quote
Sonnenschein Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 Please, don't take it personal, Corey. Ā I hope I can express mysel a little clearer: Ā This trooper is closer to the TKs we know, so we can "see" the differences better. , The incinerator trooper and skytrooper have a more distinctive desgin (paint job, equipment, etc). So they're no where near an ANH or ROTJ. You can use any base for it. Ā But it seems that you are a little "in love" with this Phase III trooper, so go for it! Ā Don't let others tell you what do do! 1 Quote
dashrazor Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) the edges are not like that in the HD versions. the PC model shows the model without smoothing or filters. the model is built on a polygon structure just like any CGI render. also that would be like using a painting as reference and trying to replicate the brush strokes on the costume. Ā if you look at the actual gameplay with filters and lighting effects the poly shapes are almost invisible and the are not even intended to be seen. the poly shapes are a limitation of gaming hardware. plus the modles are always moving in the actual game so it is even less noticeable when playing Ā -------- Edited September 20, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
Star Raider[TK] Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 Please, don't take it personal, Corey. Ā I hope I can express mysel a little clearer: Ā This trooper is closer to the TKs we know, so we can "see" the differences better. , The incinerator trooper and skytrooper have a more distinctive desgin (paint job, equipment, etc). So they're no where near an ANH or ROTJ. You can use any base for it. Ā But it seems that you are a little "in love" with this Phase III trooper, so go for it! Ā Don't let others tell you what do do! Ā Sorry, My text can seem strong.... But I understand what you mean completely! And no I didn't take it personally Ā The images you posted Dash, give a better view of the rendered version... The model that I have is just the base of what the render looks like ;P Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 So basically, this is the "basic" trooper base that could be used for the ICN & TKC, right? E.g. you take this, add some red or blue paint and voila! TKC/ICN. Ā Ideally it would be that way, as that seems what's intended. As noted, artists are not TK experts, and make compromises due to time, budget, or simply lack of knowledge. I'm sure with unlimited amounts of each, there'd be no pixilating/sharp edges and we'd get what is seen in EPII/EPIII realistic animation. Quote
Star Raider[TK] Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 So basically, this is the "basic" trooper base that could be used for the ICN & TKC, right? E.g. you take this, add some red or blue paint and voila! TKC/ICN. Ā Ā Thats a good way of putting it... Quote
dashrazor Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 its just a limitation of hardware. if you compare the same exact model used on the sony PSP to the PS3 or XBOX360 they look very different because the PSP is lacking in video memory in comparison. if we all hade supercomputers like LFL everything would be super smooth that will be the next gen in gaming hopefully. Quote
dashrazor Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 I'm going to apply with my Garrison official sometimes this week to get me re-approved as a Phase III Trooper!! (Hopefully, being the first!) Ā good luck corey! cant wait to see this new addition come to life Quote
Star Raider[TK] Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Posted July 12, 2012 In the process of talking with my GML to get my Phase III approved Quote
DizzyStormtrooper[501st] Posted September 22, 2012 Report Posted September 22, 2012 I know my opinion doesn't count much, but I have to agree with Dan.Everythi g has tobe edgy. Ā This could be an easy pepacura project with all the edges. Ā i dont mean to necropost, but i noticed this is where fierfek got his stormtrooper pepakura files from. i have the thighs, shins, back, chest, and shoulders built of this armor! funny my pep armor looks just like this.. with the exception of the ab, crotch, and butt plates built from a different more accurate screen armor Quote
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