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Hey guys!

 

I was going through the BluRay features the other day with my mate Dennis, and while looking at the Luke torso we thought "Hell, this doesn't actually look vac formed at all!"

Why, do you ask?

 

Look at this screen grab of the Luke suit (which I nicked from another thread, hope that's okay):

 

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See how sharp those ridges are?

 

Here's another of an archive suit:

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You notice there's a colour difference, not a surprise as they most likely were added on later, but were they vac-formed at all? Or maybe cast? Something completely different maybe? Vac formed into a negative mould to get the sharp detail?

 

What do you guys think? I'm not convinced they're cast, but I'm not 100% sure they are just another vac formed piece anymore either...

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i think it was vac-formed into a negative vac forming mold. not formed over a positive mold like current armor makers. AA commented on using both negative and positive molds at some point.

 

"I made no sketches, no models, no engineering drawings… I sculpted the

production moulds directly, using my own blends of resins, fillers and metal dusts…

The production moulds were the sculptures... they were positives, negatives

and reverse engineered."

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I would say definitely negatively vac formed. The key would be seeing them in profile. Are the buttons and the ridges the exact same height? If so they would be formed the way half spheres are formed by vac forming - holes and slots in a flat piece.

 

Good spot sir! I look forward to this debate!

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Yeah, the negative vac forming is a plausible explanation, although I wouldn't give much on what AA said, for obvious reasons...

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This very point was raised a while back in the thread with Blu-ray screen caps of Luke's armour.

 

I hope this Christmas TE finally gets those nail clippers he asked Santa for.

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I might have to try some negative vac forming. Rivet covers have that same sharp edge around the button shape. But ive been trying to figure this out, now I know! Thanks guys! I was thinking they pressed something into the plastic as they vac formed it... But this makes total sense.

 

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Look at this screen grab of the Luke suit (which I nicked from another thread, hope that's okay):

 

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That's what they're for! ;) That's in my image gallery. It's from the bonus disk... here's the link.

 

Jess

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Here's more detail shots of the ab parts... from the LFL Archives

 

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I wonder if they originally just counter sunk holes in a piece of wood? Actually, I bet they drilled through a thin piece of wood... glued it to a sold piece, and then vac formed that... because the buttons are all consistent as far as the height and diameter, etc. But what about the little divots in the center of each button, or are they just flat in the center? I thought there was a little dip in the center of each button?

 

I guess they could have also made the part with cutout shapes, then casted it... and vac formed the negative (or mold essentially). That would have been easier than building a negative.

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Sounds like I need to buy some replacement upgrades ;)

 

I've been wanting to do that some time anyway!

Posted

Sweet! Let me get back to you next month. I'm moving to a new flat soon so I will have to get new furniture and other expensive household stuff.

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Boy my Lukes suit going to look the dogs, with detail like that Paul ;)ammazzing work work mate ;)

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Is the new ab button plate standard issue on current and open orders? ;)

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@ Rich i think you might be in there old chap ;)

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Is the new ab button plate standard issue on current and open orders? ;)

 

Yes, but the old style is still an option. The acrylic capped ABS is not glossy on the reverse side so the negative formed pieces may not be what some people want.

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