TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 So I got a nice new set of 4 bumped stunt ANH ears for my lid which came with flat bumps (No idea why it came like that). I've tried for the past 3 days to get these suckers to sit right, but they just won't go on properly. I'm almost ready to give up. So a quick question regarding them. If I can't get them to fit despite cutting, trimming, sanding, filing etc. Would I be able to just cut off the ring with the bumps and glue them to my old ears? Or would this STILL = FAIL for 501st UK garisson exceptance? Obviously before I take any drastic measure and hack off the bumps, I'll seek the opinion of the seller. But I'm open to suggestions from other more experienced armor helmet makers. PLEASE NOTE this is in NO way the fault of the seller, he is a top bloke, it's more to do with my lack of experience and skill with this sort of thing and possibly the weirdness of my TK helmet. Quote
Sonnenschein Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 Post pics. A few mm of gaps a screen accurate. Replacing this part might be an option. Quote
Amptrooper Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 Kind of lost on this. Do you mean your new ears won't lay right? If that is the case that is easy. Just trim and lightly heat so that you can get them to fit to the bucket better. Also depends though on what bucket you have and what bucket the ears are for a little. But, you can still work with it. I would really replace the whole ear piece before I went cutting parts of this and replacing with that. I mean, you could do it but you would really need to be careful that it doesn't look like it is all pieced together. Got any pictures of it? Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) One side fits better than the other, but it just won't fit right. I don't want to take much more off it as I'd be left with a huge gap at the front AND the back. Also examining the ears side-by-side. The circular part on the new ears are smaller than the ones that were on it previously, so the screw holes are also in a different place. I'm still not sure what make the bucket is. Edited January 26, 2021 by gmrhodes13 photo updated gmrhodes13 2021 Quote
Sonnenschein Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Doesn't look bad at all. For best results always screw them on, as the plastik bends Also, take a look at this------- Many useful tips there! Edited January 26, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working, removed gmrhodes13 2021 Quote
Amptrooper Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 On 2/4/2011 at 2:04 AM, Sonnenschein said: Doesn't look bad at all. For best results always screw them on, as the plastik bends Also, take a look at this ------- Many useful tips there! Good link for that! Yeah, doesn't look to bad! A lot of that will lay down when you screw them on. If you still want a better fit then trim and heat if necessary. I don't think you will have much of that to do if you screw them on there. Quote
RogueTrooper[TK] Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 Since the replacement ears that you purchased were meant for a different style of helmet and the helmet that you are working on is an FX style helmet, the new ears were not made to fit the contour of the FX style lid. Thus the "hair pulling" experience that you have had for the past three days. If I may suggest two options: (1) just cut the center part out of the new ears (the bump with the four ridges), glue them to the original ears, fill, sand , smooth and paint and you should be good to go. (2)Or you could take the original center bump that is flat that came with your FX style helmet, buy a dowel rod and file or sand down the dowel rod until it is a half circle. Then cut the half circle dowel rod into four sections that will fit onto the flat center to make up the four ridges. Glue them, sand them and paint them. If you use either of these methods, you should have no problem getting your 501st clearance, or at least for your ears. Quote
giftshopduane Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 screw the caps on, redrill if needed, no big deal. then with a pencil lay it against the side of the helmet, put the tip of the pencil against the earpiece at the widest gap, take note, now run the pencil down the side of the piece keeping the tip at the relative position of the gap, trim off the plastic. what your basically doing is scribing the contour of the helmet onto the piece. make sense? it does in my head. Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks for the link and the advice. At the moment I can't screw it down because of the different position of the bottom circle screw hole. Also as this set of ears is a slightly different shape and lie, I'll need some new longer screws, so I'll get those first before I even start on the other ear. As for heating, will a hair dryer be hot enough or will I have to use a heat gun? Quote
giftshopduane Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 oh.. start with the side with the biggest gap, that way they will all come in to be the same thickness, did mine once the first time. Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 Follow up question. Does anyone know the size (Diameter) the screws are or are they all different? If they ARE different, anyone know a good place I can buy 6 screws with nuts to go on the end? Preferably UK sellers. Cheers for the help guys, much apreciated. Quote
TK-7980 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 Can you post a full picture of the helmet? Maybe we can help you identify the helmet. Also whats the maker of the ears? Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Ok here's a pic of the helmet. The ears were made by John Danter. Top bloke. I've managed to get one of the ears to fit a bit better now, thanks to the advice from you awesome lot. Once I get the 3 screws on (Only 2 on at the moment as I need to drill a new hole for the bottom circle screw), I think it'll be alright. Here's 2 pics of the new ear on. Edited January 26, 2021 by gmrhodes13 photo updated gmrhodes13 2021 Quote
geordietrooper Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 looks like a battle spec lid Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 Ahh yeah looks bang on. Thanks eagle eyed private eyes. Awesome stuff. Looking at the ears they have the bumps, mine didn't come with them...Wonder why the seller opted for the bumpless ears. Quote
Sonnenschein Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 The bumps are glued on this one, as is the vocoder. They just forgot them. Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 The bumps are glued on this one, as is the vocoder. They just forgot them. Really? Glued on? Well I'm learning more and more every day I'm here. Tomorrow I'll start work on the other ear and wait patiently for all my other stuff to turn up; Snaps, webbing, elastic and belt. Then on to the armor fitting! Quote
troopermaster Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 I could be wrong here but that doesn't look like a genuine SDS. It looks more like one of those recasts from ebay. If you get stuck, you can send the helmet to me and I will put you a new pair of TM ear caps on for you. PM me if you need some help Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Posted February 3, 2011 I could be wrong here but that doesn't look like a genuine SDS. It looks more like one of those recasts from ebay.If you get stuck, you can send the helmet to me and I will put you a new pair of TM ear caps on for you. PM me if you need some help Thanks for the offer, much apreciated. I'll see how it goes tomorrow with the ear and if I reach the point where I want to tear my hair out, I'll get back to you. As for the recast SDS helmet, it really wouldn't suprise me now. After the other issues I've had with the armour and looking at it over closely, the lines are not clean in some areas, especialy the 'O II' on the back. There are a few other dodgy areas on the armour, but as I was a noob going in to it I didn't really know for sure what I was getting and that's my fault for not doing more research before I bought it. I'm a full advocate for not believing what anyone on ebay says. Next time, I'll get my armour from a trused member of the FISD. But that won't be for a long while yet. Quote
john danter Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 That's a great offer from Paul there Ricky Id say you can actually trim a little more off the ears ao they sit flusher and don't stand out too much John Quote
TrooperVenger Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Posted February 4, 2011 Bit of an update for you. I worked on the ears some more today. Hurray for a day off work! So I've now 'fitted' both ears and they don't look too bad...from the front. Not so hot from behind. I still think I should replace the screws for longer ones with a better head. Also still need to drill and screw in the bottom circle ear part which I'll do later on. Oh and of course I need to paint the grey on the bumps. Any thoughts? ------ Quote
john danter Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) Have you put them on the right way? The ears slope backward, toward your neck. Sorry if you have, just trying to figure out what's up My ears are meant to fit TE type lids. Although lots have been used on MR lids quite successfully...? But that looks cool to me. Check the films out. They were all over the shop Edited February 4, 2011 by john danter Quote
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