BlackDOG[TK] Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) I am in a quandary..... Years ago, I had a GF Stunt helmet.I liked the look, but I am still hung up on the Hero. So when I started thinking about TK armor, I decided to go hero. So, in assembling my build pieces, I ordered Hero handplates (Thanks, Karin). While I was looking about for decals.....a nice trooper( Thanks MIke!) pointed out to me that the ATA kit I have coming is a STUNT. Back when (several years ago) when I first researched the TK buckets, I thought the only difference was the number of teeth cut out and lenses.......I did not realize the difference in the actual frown. To what extent can a ATA be made to look hero? Also, how does this impact my desire to go EIB? If I have to go stunt, I will, but I will have to get new handplates.....SIGH! J. Edited September 17, 2010 by BlackDOG Quote
Sonnenschein Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) When ATA came out last year, I few troopers made ATA heroes, IIRC. I'll see if I can find the old threads. PS: Glad you like them PPS: Even some "stunt" troopers wore hero guards Edited September 17, 2010 by Sonnenschein Quote
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) you can order hero ears from ATA. 3 bump. lenses, teeth, frown size. ears and painted helmet details all are in the hero design lid. I've seen TM lids in the hero style that are exact replicas down to the warping around the teeth on the faceplate. VT sells some nice hero designs in the faceplate as well. the hero design actually was used in the production of the MRCE, so you could do a mod into the hero style with a basic MRCE and mod with new lenses, paint, and the ear mod I did for that included thinning out the ears and changing the number of bumps from 4 back to 3. even added more material to the ears to make it right. you can pass EIB hero with any helmet with 3 teeth cut, bubble lenses and the proper paint. I did hero EIB with that pesky modded MRCE... you should be able to hit the mark fine with a properly assembled ATA paul explains more fully below on why it's not impossible to go hero... Edited September 17, 2010 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) It should be a non-issue. For 501st & EI acceptance the Hero isn't really broken out in such detail. Option: Hero Configuration An ANH EIB applicant may opt for a Hero configuration, which is defined as meeting all of the Stunt requirements above but with the following variations: * Lenses must be green bubble or smoke bubble only, not flat * Ears have only two screws used per side, one above the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet * Only six teeth total should be cut out, three per side. Perhaps later this or next year we'll break out the ANH Hero from stunt and add more requirements such as correct number of holster rivets, correct ear bump count, and correct hand plates, but not until we have some other projects completed. Edited July 23, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
firebladejedi[TK] Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 Why does everyone keep on about hero hand plates? there is no such thing - just type 1 and type 2??? Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 I'd suggest dear sir that you correct the situation with an excellent post that can be stickied, and added to the Academy Quote
Sonnenschein Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) On 9/18/2010 at 4:24 AM, firebladejedi said: Why does everyone keep on about hero hand plates? there is no such thing - just type 1 and type 2??? That would be me. I used this term to make a differntiation between these 2 stiles, as there one was seen with this "hero" helmet. If we can find another terminology, I'm all for it ----------- Edited July 23, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
firebladejedi[TK] Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) And yet here is Han wearing the more common========= Edited July 23, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
Sonnenschein Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) yes, indeed And here's a regular trooper wearing the "rare" type 2 How about calling them "standard" and "alternative"? "1" and "2" is a little boring ----------- Edited July 23, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
Billhag Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) On 9/18/2010 at 7:28 PM, Sonnenschein said: yes, indeed And here's a regular trooper wearing the "rare" type 2 How about calling them "standard" and "alternative"? "1" and "2" is a little boring ---------- Karin Sounds good to me mate That's what they were always called so makes sence to stay with what we know Edited July 23, 2021 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
Sonnenschein Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 okay... then maybe at some time in the future, when the hero and stunt EIB requirements get divided, we should change this aswell Option: Hero Configuration * The holster should be attached to the belt using four fasteners instead of two * If trapezoidal latex hand guards are used, then should be of the Hero pattern instead of Stunt (see visual references) Quote
john danter Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 I'll be knocking out some 3 bump hero ears in solid ABS and a latex hidden switch soon too Just need to pull my finger out I'll also be trying to knock up a 1 and 2 style ABS version of the 2 type plates soon also Quote
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted September 18, 2010 Report Posted September 18, 2010 those handplates look really thin, and at the wrist they look like they are cut with a slight curve, not just a str8 line. the thumb part on hero plates looks moulded in a curved shape. almost 1/2 of the plate curves down towards the thumb. Quote
BlackDOG[TK] Posted September 19, 2010 Author Report Posted September 19, 2010 Got some correct ears on the way...thanks for the help.... Please resume debate......... Quote
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