Moredhel
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After asking lots of questions and making quiet progress, it's finally time to start my own build thread. My BBB day actually was May 13, 2021. The box looked a little roughed up, but thankfully everything was packed well. I ordered my armor and helmet kit from 850 Armorworks April 10th, so the turnaround time was really nice. This is my first kit of any kind, so I started with the hand plates thinking they would be an easy way to learn how “workable” the ABS is. In general I'm using aviation snips for rough cutting and a Dremel sanding disk. I'm not brave enough to cut out the slot yet, but things are going well so far. I'll probably trim off more of the return edge when I do. The gloves from Endor Finders are great! I started drilling out some holes in the helmet to enable further cutting by holding a jigsaw bit between my hands. I'll come back with the sanding drum where possible and files or sandpaper in the smaller openings. In the meantime I present Odinhelm! Their design is rotocast resin, which feels pretty thick and solid in most places, but there are some thin spots too that I mentioned in another thread. Based on the advice there I'm going to try to reinforce it somehow. Maybe that would be a good time to learn how to make ABS paste and slather it on. I've seen a lot of people working from the abdomen out, so that's where I went next. It's a 3-piece construction with a front half, back, and sides formed together. The back gets split in half, and you leave as much as you need on either side of the reinforcement for the trauma plate. After careful measurements I determined I could cut the sides to size such that those edges would be covered by the trauma plate. I have everything temporarily taped together, and it still fits without splitting the back yet. I intentionally wore a jacket to give some extra margin. I managed to cause a bit of a controversy in James's build thread (jamesmillerio sorry man! ) when I asked him about the black stripe that will go on the sides. It ended up on a tangent about the angle of the ribs and stripe, which on the 850 kit is not as steep as Jimmi kits. It's still “approximately 70 degrees” per the CRL though, and many people have been approved with it. I don't have the skills (yet?) to do major surgery, so I'm leaving it as is and thinking it looks alright. We aren't the first to make this kit. I rough cut the right bracer and bicep then trimmed them further to fit. It'll take me a bit to glue them together, as the resin cover strips require a lot of sanding and filing. So far I think that's the weak spot of this kit. It looks like the molds were 3D-printed, and they leave a lot of ridges just as if the parts were printed themselves. Also some gaps that may need patched (bubbles during pouring maybe?) and some angles that just didn't turn out right. I used painter's tape (can you tell I like that stuff?) to make sure I didn't sand too much away. Next I turned my attention to the chest and back because I didn't think I'd know how much to trim the pauldrons (shoulder bells) without seeing where the shoulder straps would be. The chest seems way to big for me. I'm not a big-and-tall trooper! The sides don't line up very well, and the pectoral lines are falling too low. What I'm planning to do is cut off shoulder strap mounts and reattach them further down to lift the whole thing up a few inches. That's all for now!
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Ab Plate too big for a lightweight Trooper
Moredhel replied to Galen11's topic in Assembly, Mods, and Painting
Not sure how much I have to offer or why people are reluctant to open the drive folder, but the perspective of the pictures, while it does show the gap, doesn't show much else. Shouldn't there be kidney pieces or something on the side that would help pull it in? -
My bad, you're right. I was thinking 3D printing because I'm pretty sure the molds he uses for the resin are 3D printed - you can see the ridges of the layers. I'm doing a lot of filing too. Especially on the higher step above the angled base, it seems like the surfaces aren't all aligned very well, have imperfections, etc. It's probably the weakest area of the 850 kit in my opinion, but I don't know what others do. It probably took me over an hour to sand and file this forearm trim piece. Untrimmed one to the left, nearly finished piece on the right.
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Здравствуйте! I know a little Russian, so I recognize some Ukrainian words too. Looks like that one's the same
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Also called rotary center release buckles. Here is an example: https://www.strapworks.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PLH-CTR-CRR-000&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2NObhNyU8QIVKW5vBB1GLQrpEAQYAiABEgIl7vD_BwE I know they wouldn't be a good idea everywhere, but in some areas where more twisting happens in the arms and legs - maybe. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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Looks awesome! Any tips on getting the 3D-printed cover strips done? They seem to require a ton of sanding/filing, so it's slow going for me right now.
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Thanks. I was in a hurry and missed that.
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Ok... back from vacation. Here's my 77 degree measurement: It may be hard to tell, but here is a picture of me with my ab armor temporarily taped together (tinted green for extra contrast) with the running stormtrooper on the beach overlaid with a little transparency. I actually got the same 7 degree difference. Then here's the CRL image with the same picture overlaid. It's dead on. It looks like a fiberglass kit - I'm guessing Jimmiroquai's, but that's because he's the only one I know of. So I have to admit there's more to it than viewing angle. I wonder if it's something that anyone else who's never read this thread will notice though... Anyway I hope your build is going well!
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It's hard to make sure the horizontal reference is perpendicular to the adjacent rib that's not angled. I snapped another photo but haven't had a chance to put it out there yet, and I measured closer to 77 degrees this time. Since the CRL says "approximately" 70 degrees and it depends so much on viewing angle, I can see why 850 would push back on changing it. Is that right? I do remember reading somewhere about ROTK and FOTK kits needing painted, but is that true for ABS? I don't see that in the CRL, and it's pretty glossy already.
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Do you have a protractor? I have a 850 kit also and measured it at about 75 degrees, so I think his molds are fine. It's hard to gauge angles on round surfaces especially without a good horizontal reference. I think it's just your photo angle. I hope you don't have to hack it up! I was just questioning the over/under arrangement.
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Who did you settle on for your blaster? I'm looking at Stardust Industries too. Praetorian seems to have been badly hit by the pandemic, hurricanes, etc., so there's not a lot of activity on their Facebook page, and the website is down.
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Isn't the back of the kidney armor supposed to go on the outside of the ab plate to create the "recessed" black stripe at 70 degrees? It's hard to find good closeups of this area, but you can see in the CRL photo that they got black paint up the sides of the groove on front and back of the stripe. Not a great paint job, but it helps illustrate the point. I think the fiberglass kits don't even have a joint here, just the groove, which would make it harder to paint.
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That makes sense. It definitely doesn't look as good as the others. It was just driving me crazy that I couldn't find it lol.
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I finally found the other picture. It was in the middle of 11b30b4's ROTK vs. OTTK thread from last year: It's that "Original Prop Blog" picture that shows a layered belt construction. The boxes are overhanging the thin strap but still have some backing from the wider base strap, and again the rounded edges terminate around the drop box.