thanks for the input. the backs on the bicepts i cant do much about tho i have 17in bicepts soo i had to improvise. these kits went built with buff guys in mind aha. thanks magni i will check the knee plate again. and my quads are large as well so i might have to figure something out there. i was thinking larger cover strips. but my supplier heard i had some trouble and sent me a new pair of legs for free