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Not really true. Remember the lesson of CMANavy? He fit into TE armor. Some parts are certainly bigger (like the chest), but others are actually almost the same size if you use a measuring tape - just the contours are different. Joe fits into his armor fine thats true Turn that around - why would you ever allow then FX armor on people under 6'? But we - the 501st - does, as long as it's sized appropriately. Yes, I don't think they should allow it to be used for people under 6' tall and under 200lb's My dislike of the FX is partly related to accuracy, but more so that it's not proportioned to most people's bodies, especially when we don't let other costume types wear inappropriately sized costumes. YES! I have had this same issue with my garrisson, if the 501st is SO ANAL about the Fetts and Siths, why not be just as anal about the TK's??? Back on target for the Hasbro - one object lesson is that quality should not mean price. Perhaps someday when hyperfirms cost $50, we can rid of it. My $.02... I agree

I know you were being sarcastic , sorry if I sounded like I was singling you out, but I wasn't, I was trying to address your comments one by one Because they are very important to this panel...we need to see how everyone feels about this topic, I was kind of dissapointed that there weren't more people here to chime in

sure, I'll try to answer that question for ya To me, "Screen correct" means that it will look good when the film is shot, not to the eye of the public or in real life action, such as using tape for armor parts and such..."Screen accurate" mean's that your suit of Armor is 100% detailed to those visions that GL originally had for the TK.

Yes! the modded hasbro blaster is great for trooping with and for "Normal" 501st TK's

Yeah, its realy a trial and error thing, just keep trying it until it looks correct

Cool, thanks Scott

Sounds like you have been dealing with MFX armor

Great job 8029!

Like I said I believe that the Hasbro blaster is just a convenient item to get for ANH deployment, and I don't think it should be allowed for "elite status" there is NO way I would submit pics of my authentic ROTJ or ESB without the correct blaster to go with it, because the hasbro blaster would not work for these kits...but thats just me ...Remember that the 501st is a costuming club first and fore most, and some of us strive for the most accurate of that, and I always thought that the tittle of "Elite" should have a high bar to achieve. And I Believe that the blaster qualifications should be set higher since the more authentic looking blasters are not much more in $$$ than buying a hasbro toy, and buying the mod kit

In the pic The ESB/ROTJ blaster cost me $80.00, and the resin ANH cost me $100.00...so, as you all can see they are not much more that the moded hasbro

Your armor looks fine to get into the 501st, but you have applied for Elite Deployment, so we are being Picky because of this...I hope you are not thinking that you need to get elite status to join the 501st The TD looks good to me...Heres Mine... The ab buttons look to be the right color but they are way to big and need to go, you can get the correct sized ones from a fellow trooper on these boards...here is a pic of the correct sized ANH ab buttons... your holster needs two more rivets on the bottom in the end, you holster should ride on your belt like this... I hope these pics help

Cool

Yes, but you can see the difference though right..personally I think that the blaster sound which is cool I mite add, takes away the mystique from the weapon itself ...When you are on a troop I would think that we are suppose to give off a persona that we are TK's, but thats just me

I know about the FX armor being innacurate but, I do not think that the FX armor should be gotten rid of, because there are those of us who do not have the body type or head size of the Skinny 1970's english guy's that were in the original movie I know you don't have the final say in this Scott, we all do

Yeah, I saw it...don't worry I will make it work its just an AP kit

yeah its an AP helmet I'm going to rivet it through the upper lip on either side, then put velcro on the face of the shin to keep it away from the upper shin so it angles out away from the upper thigh so it does not catch underneath it...I hope this is not too confusing ...I will take pictures when I get a chance

No problem Felixx I love entertaining the kids too and being on stage

Here is a pic of some of my blasters, from top to bottom Gun #1 The more Authentic ESB/ROTJ E-11 Gun #2 The more Authentic ANH E-11 Gun #3 The Modded Hasbro Blaster

I guess that can be put up for discussion. Yes this is what I have tried to start with this topic, I want it to be a discussion though and not to turn into an argument Keep in mind that the idea here is to create that accurate look, Yes the accurate "look" is the key to the tittle of Elite status, but if we are not allowed to cut corners with our armor, how come we can cut corners with the blaster? but maybe not totally eliminate the ability to achieve that goal. In my opinion, This requirement does not totaly eliminate the ability to achieve The issues I had when I got my Elite status was the requirements are defined, but can also be interpreted several ways. So, I would think that this would be a great start as to specifying the terms for elite status Now, I would ask, do we want to set the bar so high that it requires every trooper to know the intricate details of every piece of every suit? I don't know, I am merely asking the question. If you eliminate the modded Hasbro blaster, you remove what 90% of all TK's have as their arsenal. Again, the same could be true of the FX bucket, heck even the FX armor itself if you want to go that far. I will be the first to admit my FX is not the most "screen-accurate" armor there is, This has nothing to do with the FX Helmet I personally feel that the amount of work I have put into my armor (and my blaster), made me appreciate the art of costume making more than if I had just bought an accurate set right out of the box. If we get to the point that the only way to achieve Elite Status is to buy the most accurate armor that can be found, then the modding and hard work someone puts into their armor to make it accurate becomes unnecessary and no longer an option. It might also simply make the goal of attaining Elite Status so difficult it rarely happens. I would need to verify but, at least 4 Elite trooper requests are FX. Do we really want to ge there again Scott?...this discussion is about the blaster it has nothing to do with the armor...that will be left for the future I would think, rightr now lets stick to the blaster please I am just the guy that enforces the standards and grants Elite Status. Yes! and you do a great job at it, thats why I am glad you are apart of this discussion because you are on the front lines of deplyment status

One of the main reasons I braught this up was becaus this item was left open in the deployment standards so to speak, but I think that us veterine FISD members have been here long enough and highly educated in the art of the original TK's to actually make a sound judgement on this topic

A modded hasbro blaster is fine to troop with, but however this is about the submission for aproval of "elite" status...I think that the Hasbo toy is just convenient to get but does it really look "good enough"?

Yes, it is out there...it just has to be found ..I think that the FX Helmet should not be written out due to people having larger heads, but this is about the modded Hasbro Blaster...besides after you spend X amount of money on the toy blaster, then X amount of money on the conversion kit...it is about the same cost as a resin kit at the least ...and with the hasbro well, its still a hasbro and will never look any better <_<

Well my white armor brothers, I have a question to ask all of you...Our elite standards suggest that your armor and equipment has the same "look" as if you walked out of the film, But I ask you, If we painstakingly make our armor as close to screen accurate as possible, shouldn't the blaster also be as screen accurate as possible too? Just a thought

Ok, my GGG Brother, I am going to sound like a Hard a$$ right now, but I am not pointing these things out because I'm trying to be mean...The Ab buttons look a little big , and how did you attach your TD to your belt?