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Alright Todd! This is a great one to add to the never ending growth of your costume collection!!! You should open a museum! Anyway, any EIB application needs to be complete with the correct set of required photos. Here is the list to reference:http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/22583-expert-infantry-application-guidelines/ The Deathtrooper is just a rotted, blown apart version of the standard ANH Stunt armor. All CRL requirements for the construction should be present and documented. A couple things I have noticed off the bat is the lack of bloodstains. I will go into total detail upon the application completion, but I would highly suggest you consider repairing your thermal detonator. Your control panel is upside down and there should be space between the outer caps and the control panel. Please go back over all the CRL requirements. Congrats on this armor. This must have been a real challenge!

Hey Joe!!! Great upgrade with your armor. It's always nice to have yet another version you can rely on. Before I do a full review, you are missing a few pictures to make your application complete. Please post the following shots: Cod and butt plate hardware, interior strapping, hovi mic tip close up and back of helmet detail pics. It looks like everything should be in order, but the application itself needs to be complete. Please get these posted soon so we can get to this great armor!!

Well, Germain, I can say I have been looking forward to this for a long time!!! Thank you for your application! Let's look at your armor! CRL and EIB Application Requirements: I will go forward with the full review. Please take and post a shot of your hovi tips close-up. I can see that you properly replaced the ones that originally came with the AP kit, but it is a required photo. Your body type paired with your skill and attention to detail really make your armor look awesome!! Little details make this a joy to look at: perfect ears, return edge seam alignment, top class handpainted details,...nice! Your armor contains all the required features for EIB. With that said, I would like to congratulate and welcome you to Expert Infantry! Other-Armor Fit/Assembly: This is a section where myself and fellow troopers make suggestions to improve the overall look of your armor. These suggestions will not affect your applications. There is not a whole lot of things I can contribute to this section and that is a good thing! The only comment I would have is actually in regards to your blaster and holster. Your scope rail boarderlines an being a tad high off the main receiver and the front caps and nuts on the power cylinders are big. Here is a comparison to what I see: Cylinders used for the film: and yours: the other item is the "stitchyness" of your holster. Typically, the holsters only had stitching on the one side where the leather was folded over and bound. With your great attention to detail, these little things surprised me but don't take away from the overall build. Great job also conquering the notorious AP sniper!! Centurion Suggestions: Unless your complete Centurion photo page shows a detail not seen here, I don't see anything that would keep Centurion from you. Nice work incorporating the notch into the kidney! Congratulations again!!! Well done!

Hey Chance!!! MTK is quickly earning its place here, I agree! Your armor is a great example of how good this armor can be. Thank you for your application and let's look at your armor! CRL and EIB Application Requirements: I will go ahead and do a full review on your application. I would like you to take and ad a close up of your ab details and your crotch hardware. I can see them clearly in several shots, but they are part of the required photo list. Please edit them in as soon as you can! As for the overall build of your armor, your attention to detail is apparent. Your hardware placements are darn near perfect. Well done overall on the build!!! With that, I would like to congratulate and welcome you to EIB!! Other-Armor Fit/Assembly: I like easy reviews like this! There are a couple things that I and your fellow troopers have suggested. These are suggestions to improve the overall look of your armor and won't affect your applications. First off is your left bicep. On any build, I look for balance between the two sides. The need to size this down shows most in your side shot with your arms raised. You can see just how much extra room there is to eliminate. Your back shot also makes this point. It will do so much to put your armor in balance. Hopefully, you used E6000 and this will be an easy trim and re-glue. The next thing is not necessarily a repair, but something I just want to mention for the record. This is in regards to your belt's drop boxes. The originals there very thin:From nearest measurements, ABOUT 10 MM. Yours are good. But they are right at the boarderline of what I would consider too thick. Centurion Suggestions: I cannot see anything at this time that would hold you back from Centurion for the exception of the notch in the lower corner of the kidney. This is a requirement that needs to be implemented into your build. I would suggest the bicep adjustment. Although this WON'T hold you back, it would just make you look that much more awesome. Make sure to follow the Centurion photo checklist. Since we don't have a pic (but I know you will post one soon ) of your cod/butt hardware, make sure these are not painted. Congrats again on a great set of armor!!! BTW....don't get too used to sitting. This is just an accident waiting to happen.

Holy .......! Really nice job!

You asked earlier if the gaps in the ears against the helmet are acceptable. Yes. Many of the on screen helmets had gaps. However if you wanted to eliminate the ones you have, all you need to do is move the ear down ever so slightly and massage that little corner to nestle into the curved crease between the cheek and the tube. Although you can't increase the hole size in your ears to slide it down, you CAN increase the holes underneath the ears on the main helmet body. Using the same drill bit you used to make the original hole, place it back into the hole and with a little downward pressure on the drill it will open the hole a little below the original location allowing the screws to drop just a tad. You will be able to trim those ears darn near perfect. Watch the back side of the ears as well. One side does affect the other.

I didn't see anyone answer regarding the main button plate. It should be trimmed so that a small portion of the raised area it sits on us visible. Same with the smaller 4 button plate. Ron hit it right on the head regarding your thigh fitting. Just make sure when your helper is marking the back of your thighs that you have them pulled up high into your crotch.

There is no protocol for build order of your armor. Many build their helmets as inspiration to move forward. However, building your helmet first will not give you more insight on how to proceed with the rest of your armor. The color of the plastic is the only thing that is similar. Research on the build thread section is your friend. You will find a host of ATA build threads to help you.

Black is what's most commonly used. Try both and see which you like best

Are you sure it wasn't Dave M? In that case, it would be Trooperbay you are looking for.

Alright Jason! Great to see your application! Let's get to it! CRL and Centurion Application Requirements: All required submission photos have been posted. With pleasure I can say that your armor contains all necessary elements for Centurion and should be on the "how ATA is supposed to look" list. Well done, Sir! Nice incorporation of the original strapping brackets! Other-Armor Fit/Assembly: This is the section where suggestions are made to further improve the overall look of your armor. These are suggestions that do not affect your application. Just want to add how much better your blaster looks with the added details and weathering! I would still squeeze down those thermal detonator belt clips for security purposes. It looks like the strapping bracket screws could use a little dab of white paint. It will still allow them to be visible just knock down how much they show. NOTE: Jason's application came in before the discussion and application of the kidney notch Congratulations and welcome to Centurion!!!

Your male (right) side rivet is MUCH closer to where it needs to be. Your rivet (left) side is now balanced. I can't wait to hear when you tried this on and saw both how much better it will feel and how much sleeker it looks. You thigh pack attachment is right on the money. Thank you so much for sticking with this! Your hard work paid off. Your armor thanks you and I can finally congratulate and welcome you to Centurion!!!!

Totally agree.....and I have been hit with ab buttons and it's not pretty. I would rather keep things looking good a proportionate to reference photos than bust out the ruler.

Are you gonna add some kind of skull or something to the helmet???

First of....That is perfect, Ron! As for measurements, of the rivet placements, aside from the 10 MM in from the seam I don;t know thatI want to get into something that specific. Someone building a kit should be able to find this pic: and compare it to their armor side by side the photo and mark off locations that are deemed acceptable. We don't want this: or this:, or this: As for the male snap (right) side, This should be reference enough to get acceptably close: We just don;t want this: That is just too far away from that corner location. For you, Andy, those alignment lines were something totally different for another trooper. But as for the notch, yes that will be applicable to Centurion armor and will be looked at on a case by case application. It should, however, fall close to the measurements provided in the CRL. But again, if it is balanced and looks good but falls out of the measurement range by a MM or two I am not gonna tell you to throw away your armor and start over.

Hey Troopers!!! Most things in regards to armor building are fairly straight forward here. With a million build threads, and both screen used and member photos to reference, the tools are present for people to build their suits the best they can. There does seem to be a re-occurring theme that in is coming up with greater frequency. This has to do with the side seams on the RS Props armor and the extra material that is very often left to accommodate extra room. It is both an honor and a privilege to be able to be a daily witness to the talent contained within this Detachment . Few things give me gray hairs. But nothing makes me age quicker than to have to tell a trooper that a repair needs to be done on something they have worked very hard to achieve. However, EIB and Centurion awards focus on details that go above basic approval. The photo references are there and standards must remain. This doesn't mean that the "armor-Nazi" is quickly approaching. I know not everyone is perfect however I would hope that with the ample reference photos and other reference material that others have worked very hard to provide, that we would be able to come very close. Our "Pew Pew" world has been greatly improved by the presence of RS Props armor. RS has helped the builder out by providing reference points to where certain rivets and snaps should be installed. However, these points need to be approached as suggestions and not law. EVERY set of armor needs to be built according to its owner's frame. This can pose an issue for those ordering their suits pre-assembled by RS. I hope that this thread will make people aware to head off this issue before something gets installed that would require repair later. Here are the archive shots of the screen used suits showing the hardware locations: Here is an ab from an RS build I did. This was before they started adding the extra material on the sides. I drew the extended material and circled the original snap location and where it should be if the extra material is to remain. I did the same with the rivet side. If someone mounted their knee pack on their thigh with the rivet in this position (I circled the correct position): they would be asked to make the repair. Why should ab hardware be any different?? If an RS suit is presented with the desire the keep the side extensions, then the male snap should be located in the marked area: . The same goes for the rivet side: There have been hundreds of builds featuring ATA, AP, TM, T/MC, CAP, TM, etc....Not once did I see someone install rivets or a snap improperly because they planned ahead for gaining weight. They were installed right the first time. This is a simple matter of communication. If you are ordering from RS and the extra material is to remain, discuss with them the proper hardware location or have them leave it off all together and YOU decide what's best for YOUR armor.

Alright, Teet, thanks for that pic and thanks for the clarification on how to pronounce your name. Truthfully, I never even thought about the "milk delivery system" until now. Thank you, Twan Anyway, thank you for your Centurion application. Making this Legion a better looking place is what we are all about. You did a wonderful job on the construction of your suit. I assume the you built this because of the adjustment at the top of your right thigh. Nice work. I like to see this fixed. Anyway, Let's look at your armor more closely. Keep in mind that Centurion photos look at your armor in greater detail than EIB. Items may come up here that did not in EIB. CRL and Centurion Application Requirements: All required submission photos have been posted. This is so close I can taste it. A couple minor adjustments and 1 clarification and you are there. First is the thigh pack attachment on your right thigh. Germain had brought up correctly the fact that a pop rivet was used on the installation of this. A solid head rivet, either split (or preferably) a cap rivet like this should be used. The rivet in your latest picture looks really flat and almost plastic. Can you post a pic or tow showing this attachment in greater detail? The next item is your side seams. I have read all the comments in regards to this. I have personally built several RS suits and for this reason, I specifically request RS NOT to install any hardare on the AB plate until I fit it to the owner. You, Teet, are currently 1. 84M tall and 75 KG. I have built an RS suit for a trooper EXACTLY your height and 86 KG without the extra material on the sides. I am aware that everyone carries their weight differently. But you have so much overlap on your sides, it will take quite some time for you to blow out the sides. But this decision is more about the proper location of the ab hardware in its relation to the center seam. There is no comparison to the exceptional look when these halves are properly aligned. Your fit and look will improve as well. I am in no way saying that your armor's look is poor. But you will see how much it will improve when it is properly fit to your midsection. Thanks for the pic, Germain....saved me a little work. Other-Armor Fit/Assembly: The only thing that I would have to suggest here is the possibility of taking in your left thigh a little at the top. Around your knee area, both are a perfect fit. If you took that left one in at the top, your mobility would improve as well as balance the overall look of your armor. I would not suggest this if there was just a fingers worth of extra space in your thigh. This would be called "comfort" and your right thigh is an example of this. The room in your left seems excessive. Is is always a pleasure to see a nicely built set of RS your included. I can't wait to stamp Centurion on yours!!

Thank you sir!

Teet, do me one favor before I fully review this, you are missing a shot of your wrist openings of your forearms. It's a required CRL point that needs a pic to be proven. Thank you.

Hey Rafa!!! Thank you for your Centurion application! It is great to see that you have applied. No let's take a look at your application and your awesome armor! CRL and Centurion Application Requirements: Centurion applications are much more specific than EIB. More photos are required of specific areas that may not have been seen on your EIB application. Before we can move forward, a complete set of photo requirements needs to be present on the application. You are missing a pic of the butt plate/kidney joint, the inside chest plate to back plate connection strap, a close up of the thigh pack connection and the return edge on the forearms at the wrist opening. Although the last one is not on the photo checklist, it is a required feature on Centurion armor that can only be proven by a photo. Next thing I want to discuss are the gaps between your shoulder bells and the ribbed shoulder bridges. These two items should be pretty close to touching. Your left side could be brought up slightly and be good but your right side is what really concerns me. This is definitely going to need to be addressed. I have another concern regarding a different Centurion requirement. Since a full interior shot of your armor was not present on either your EIB or Centurion application, I could not see the strap that connects your chest and back. This strap needs to be white. Will you need to change this?? It seems like these straps in your pics are black. Keep in mind that the straps that connect to your shoulder bells are black. But the chest to back straps need to be white. The next adjustment I will ask you to make has to do with your sniper knee plate. Although it was seen in the film in a similar position on one trooper, it is something that is looked at as an anomaly or mistake. The ridge on the sniper knee should be lined up as closely with the ridge on the top of the shin itself like on Josh's shin shown here. RS is notorious for being difficult to wrestle into position, but it can be done. Other-Armor Fit/Assembly: This is not just finding out about what is wrong with your armor. It is about making your armor look its best. You have already begun that process. The seams on your legs and arms are awesome. I jumped for joy to see that you made the improvement of trimming the excess material to make your side seams sooooo much better. Thank you for your work on your thermal detonator by moving those clips up and replacing the cross head screws with the correct black slotted ones. Good work on removing the pain on your crotch hardware as well. Now that you have your arms figured out, that even looks better. Check on those shoulder bells, though These are a couple small steps that will make a big difference. Please don't hesitate to contact me should you have any questions.

You are doing a great job so far! I am confident you will conquer that sniper. Once trimmed out, set it in place dry with clamps until you have it just where you want it. Make marks with a pencil so when gluing, you can place it right back in the same location. It's no secret that the sniper sucks for gluing surface. A little trick I have used if you are nervous about heat bending the sniper to meet the shin surface, is to heat the shin and push it out to meet the sniper. This will create more shin to sniper gluing surface without warping the look of the sniper plate Do the same dry fit/mark so you don't go beyond those marks. All will be hidden by the sniper. A good guide for your belt corners is to trim the corners so that the vertical outer edge of your belt is roughly the same as your belt width top to bottom. I would also reserve your trimming of your cover strips for BEFORE you glue them in place. Tape up the seams and make your measurements. Trim at your leisure safely away from the armor surface. Note: if you used a razor knife to cut your cover strips, you WILL have a slight raised lip along the cut line. If not removed, this does affect how close your cover strip fits to the armor surface. Draw the sharp edge of your razor knife along the edge to remove this. You will see how much flatter it sits on the armor surface.

We are always watching........muhahahah!

At this point, we don't even know for sure that J J is gonna eliminate the TK from the film. I would hope that JJ will listen to the pulse of the fans and give us his vision yet stay slightly iconic.

Outstanding work on those TD clips!!! You are rocking this build

Or you can become really flexible and not bend your knees.