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This subject has come up a few times with the RO / New Era armor and the belts, there is a standard belt and there are belts which have been trimmed to allow a little more movement (or because they have been broken). All of the angle cuts appear to be on the same angle although cut in different places. Standard, straight across bottom of belt Trimmed / Angle cut Even with the trimmed angle cut there are variants, trimmed in line of the corner of the second belt box, trimmed under the corner of second belt box, trimmed to meet the corner of the last belt box and trimmed on the inside of the second belt box Trimmed in line of the corner of the second belt box Under corner of second belt box Angle cut before the last belt box Trimmed on the inside of the second belt box So should some level of belt trimming be allowable in the CRL and for higher level acceptance?

Personally, I am not in favor of a level 4, but it is something that is not up to me (I have a lot of bosses...Lol....). As Glen rightly says, this issue is on the DO team's to-do list, but we should certainly wait for the elections, to know if "we will remain in office", and be able to discuss this in depth.

I think any sort of Level 4 would need to focus on the helmet rather than the other components of the armor. Unlike our brothers in the MEPD who's entire costumes were weathered by prop men so that each had a unique look, TKs were all pretty much the same (except for the odd Gaffa tape repairs ). Also, we cannot be 100% sure that every actor used the same armor and helmet during the entire filming process. While there were a limited number of Sandies, there were 50+ TKs. Thanks to sites like Starwarshelmets we can see close-ups of some of the screen used ones, and boy are there differences in the scuffs/cracks/stains/paint chips. Below are just four, so that means there are 46 others to choose from. These things really got beat to heck, lol. If someone wanted to replicate a particular helmet, detailed reference photos showing the front/back and both sides would of course be required, but it could potentially be a problem when submitting for approval. What I mean by that is just how much detail would be enough to pass? Just similar paint chips/scuffs in general, or down to the most intricate nuance? Could someone be failed if they missed a tiny chip (1) or the paint finish wasn't worn down enough (2)? What if the ears weren't trimmed the exact same as the reference image used? (etc.) I honestly don't want to cause a controversy and I really don't have an issue with creating a Level 4 (I think it may be cool) but IMO any guidelines would need to be voted on and set in black and white in detail so that there is no room for subjectivity/ambiguity. We all have opinions. What I see as "Meh, it looks fine to me" could be seen by someone else as "Are you kidding, that's not even close"! Nailing down the precise wording for a prospective CRL for this could be a drawn out affair. Those have been around and participated in CRL change discussions know that they can get a bit heated at times and not everyone will be happy, but that's how it works. Give and take.

For the inside of the bucket the vast majority who spray theirs go with black. The reason being is that it makes it less easy for younglings to look up and see inside. I also wear a black balaclava to cover any skin.

So after i read the resource posts here on the forum, i have now a clear way to go. Here is my part list: Helmet is already printed (Galactic Armory Files) and painted, pictures below Neckseal is ordered Chest- and backplate will be printed (Galactic Armory Files) Armor pieces (abs plate, arms and legs) will be ordered in the next days from 850armorworks Shoes will be ordered in the next time (Crowprops or Keeptrooping) Kama is currently been sewn by a friend, belt and gloves will follow In this build i will keep an eye on references like the show itself, the new figure and more i can find. I will happily take feedback here too For example, when im using the ABS parts, how can i make the cracks, since i dont really want to drill inside the 2mm plastic, maybe i can just paint them on? But how about the golden parts like the left handplate and shoulder?

Hello all, i joined this forum yesterday. Im actually in the progress of a Captain Enoch armor. Helmet is already done, armor wil be ordered in the next days and softparts (kama and gloves) are sewn right now. Looking forward to make my grand admiral proud.

My son just received his scout trooper kit from RS propmasters and they included a 2024 Calendar with the kit. I was so excited when I turned to Mr. August and saw @Nairy looking back at me. awesome to see you in there. Congratulations

New Cannon Fodder - HI there TKMC Location:Gold Coast Queensland Australia. Hi Yall, A quick note to say hi there. I’m not sure if I need a build thread in White armour or one in Redback garrison. Looking forward to making your acquaintances in due course. I’ve been a fan of the 501st for many years and attended many events and fund raises such as 2017 Galactic Empire Charity Ball, in 2017, Dreamworld over the years or more recently the 1st Regiment Royal Australian Artillery event at Brisbane City Hall. I have been a keen follower of the 501st collective work over the years. Have started to build a TK ANH stunt, and spent most of my time researching, buying supplies and attempting to learn a new skill from scratch. Measure twice, cut tomorrow has been the motto so far, with first cut reluctance broken, I’ve started on the hand guards. Kind Regards

Hello there once again! I know it's been a few months since I've posted anything here, I'm getting tired of not working on it and I want to start again but I have a question first. Is it okay to work in the cold? Up here in Canada it's been a really warm winter only going down to maybe -15⁰C at the most on one night, so it's just cool enough to be uncomfortable, the ABS should be fine but is it OK to use E-6000 in an average of -6 - 7⁰C? Also, guess who gets to learn how to make ABS paste? This guy! Turns out the left snd right biceps are different with only the left one having the spoon/thumb imprint, got plenty of excess ABS though so I'm covered for materials. If I can't work on my armour I'll at least try and get started making this.

Looking forward to seeing the progress. One thing you have to be aware of is print lines, cannot contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. You may need to go over the helmet again as there are quite a few lines showing For the cracks it may be a case of having them for higher level approval and only painted for base approval but that's entirely up to our DL and the LMO team. Good luck with the build

Going back to your initial posts about wanting a bit of weathering as it is scene on screen. I think aiming for “level 4” accuracy shouldn’t get you docked points if it’s outside the CRL but you did it based off screen used with evidence given to the judge. A level higher in accuracy shouldn’t put you in level 2 because “that’s the rules”. Maybe “Level 4” is just an appeal process to not get dinged on Level 3 admissions. Shouldn’t get a F, for passing the test AND doing extra credit. I get that the extra credit could be done after passing level 3, which seems to be recommended often. But I think that would discourage documentation of those additions in the application process, additions that benefit the community.

Apologies if this has already been pointed out... I'm barely through my first cup of coffee this morning... As an example of the "unique details" for a higher level of accuracy, if you dig into the MEPD SWAT CRLs, they even go as far as having things like the correct runs/drips in the paint, etc. It's truly amazing and mind-boggling at the same time. While I fully appreciate & applaud this level of commitment & detail, I'm much more of a fan of a build that has been done to a level of detail worthy of the armor, but still something that is more functional than it is a work of art.

The problem with basing it on a single trooper is you would need to do so as they are on screen. If you base it on say that image above, how much of that was from 1976 and how much of that is it's 47 years old? The idea for them on screen is they were white and clean, though by the end of filming we know that wasn't the case anymore. If you wanted level 4 I'd be more going down the route of bra hook shins and the bent wire for the chest attachments. Though that's prop replication at a functional level which is never what we've been aiming for, though I believe MEPD do. FWIW a lot of us do have weathered armour, after a few troops you end up more like Tontine IV than the Death Star. Some people polish this off, others let it build up (like me)

Hello and welcome to the forum! Glad to see you on here -- I'm looking forward to seeing your progress with Captain Enoch. I'd recommend taking a look at our Captain Enoch resources, as well as starting a build thread

The actual suits have the white pigment cast into them, so they're white on the inside. Most of us spray our helmet interiors black and truck bedliner is a personal favorite choice. I've never understood why anyone uses Plastidip, as it is intended to peel off. I think it's just a hold over from the days when people used to use the stuff in a can and cheesecloth to reinforce their armor.

I doubt what is already there would change hence why some have asked for another level for full accuracy. Level 3 - Screen Accurate is kind of what we have now BUT the issue is there are different details on different troopers but for all the levels a generalized look is used. MEPD pick a trooper and replicate it which we don't do, again hence a L4 accuracy level. Some info on these levels and why they are what they are Albeit some things are changing, with the recent proposal to build a variant FOTK blaster. As I've said who knows what the next command team's vision is for the detachment and what may or may not change, it all comes down to the membership to propose, discuss and vote for changes or additions

I can’t see where you are located, but based on your posts I am going to guess UK? If so please make sure you have signed up to the UK Garrison forum as well as we have a mandatory armourer program in place which will help you ensure there are no nasty surprises come clearance time. RWA is a solid pick I troop with many who wear it. A bit of DA history from what I can remember. It’s been a while so I won’t go into huge detail incase I get it wrong. Andy was based in the south of the UK but moved to France around 4 years ago. He did do TKs but TIE pilots and helmet was probably his most popular products from what I saw being talked about on “the shed of glittering delights”. The helmet had a tell of a bump on one cheek tear. DA was never huge inside the legion for reasons I never worked out. He was a solid mid pack pick at a time those were rare here. He was however a lot more common in Europe and with non legion groups in the UK.

I think Justin nailed it with this- "I think the key is replicating what was done INTENTIONALLY in the films, not exactly what was on screen. The scuffs were likely a result of wear and tear while filming, but Stormtroopers are intended to be clean and white in ANH, as opposed to say the ones running around the forest..." This is my take on it, so keep that in mind: While Mr. Lucas broke ground in ANH by intentionally giving most of the props (spacecraft, etc.) and many of the costumes a "rough/used" appearance I don't think it was meant to apply to TKs. These were Imperial soldiers living and working on the Death Star and were expected to look their "best". As Justin mentioned, the cracks, scuffs and paint chips on the helmets were the result of the stunts (thus the name) the armor was subject to during filming and I personally do not believe they were intentional. Because of this damage, for close-up shots (Han/Luke) white ABS versions (Hero) were created from white ABS which would not have the chips/cracks as seen in the painted HDPE ones. While I applaud your goal of getting as close to 100% screen accuracy as possible (I wish more folks would) what I would suggest is to wait until you have completed Level 3 before adding the chips/scuffs to your bucket. For the purposes of Centurion (and EI for that matter) the "just out of the academy" (clean and shiny) look is what counts. While many of the other armor types are actually expected and or required to have a rough/battle worn look, the ANH TK costumes are not. What you choose to do with your bucket after reaching Centurion completely up to you and I'd like to see the results!

I think the key is replicating what was done INTENTIONALLY in the films, not exactly what was on screen. The scuffs were likely a result of wear and tear while filming, but Stormtroopers are intended to be clean and white in ANH, as opposed to say the ones running around the forest in ROTJ, or Remnants in Mando. I totally dig the look (and black mascara applied with a blush brush is a great way to do it), but definitely don't go too hard if you want L3 with ANH armor. Or do it after.

One thing to think about is this... Many (if not most) of the TKs in ANH had more of their fair share of "discrepancies" to put it mildly. Missing tube stripes, loose armor pieces, gaffa tape (you get the idea). There is a certain charm about these nuances, therefore we don't expect 100% perfection. What Level 3 is about is having the "ideal" (first day on the job) TK. All nice and shiny with everything in place and as it should be. In a word, continuity. Some folks worry about their size. Yes, the actors in the film(s) were selected by their body type but here we don't worry about that. TKs here come in all shapes and sizes, and as long as the costume fits to the wearer's scale and size anyone can become a shiny white representative of the Legion.

I have to be honest, if one had the cash getting a screen used ANH helmet seems reasonable at that price.

$14,000 for a 501st approved costume, if only we could all sell ours for this, I'd be pumping out a set of armor every week At first I was like ok but it's not Mandalorian specific era armor BUT the Propstore has mentioned several times it's a costume created by the 501st and appeared throughout the series so the buyer should know what they are getting. At the end of the day it's a nice payday for the member and it did appear on screen and I'm sure the purchaser is happy. The helmet, those ear screws, "he cringes"

It was only a matter of time before one of those lucky enough to have been part of the Mandalorian, would see dollar signs and decide to cash in. Me personally, I would have tried to get as many as possible to sign the armour and keep it as a memento of a truly once in a lifetime experience.